The Jaycee Dugard Story tonight 8 pm CST

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  1. time

    time New Member

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    I looked everywhere also and couldn't find the full version. I did find this which has a very plausible reenactment (1995)

    http://www.veeple.com/link/nAfINsHbC%2BI%3D
     


  2. my2sisters

    my2sisters New Member

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    Thanks, time. That was one of the most heart-wrenching videos with Terry and Carl I've seen.

    I think it's important that when we post that something is "definite" that we're not spreading misinformation - there's enough of that already. So I appreciate the time both you and CarlK have taken to find these reenactments.
     
  3. kbl8201

    kbl8201 Former Member

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    im guessing carl's memory differs now then it did from 1991? cause there are surely two diffrent versions now.
    we're really nitpicking anyways. whatever way he saw it we know he saw what really happened.
     
  4. my2sisters

    my2sisters New Member

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    Obviously many of us don't think so or we wouldn't be putting in so much time constantly chasing down facts that dispute what is posted even if it is just to show that we DON'T know definitively what happened! We are trying to get the facts and keep them straight in this forum.
     
  5. SunnieRN

    SunnieRN Active Member

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    Carl and Time, thank you so much for the links. I remember watching both of these shows in 1992 and 1995 and something hadn't been setting right in my mind with ng's account of the story. Now I can place what it was!!

    This proves that any testimony given by ng in regards to this case needs to be questioned and re-questioned as she must be trying to remove culpabiliity from pg and on to herself as pg is trying to do with patricia. Very disturbing as in this case it is a grevous error and LE needs to jump on this is regards to any other information she has come forth with!!
     
  6. Billylee

    Billylee New Member

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    From the above link:

    The chilling tale was told to the Telegraph by Cardoza who said he was briefed on Nancy Garrido's testimony by law enforcement contacts. The Telegraph also reports that another source close to the investigation has confirmed Cardoza's account of the testimony.



    Can someone please tell me who the heck is Michael Cardoza and why he would be briefed by anyone about what Nancy said? Was he going to be her attorney, or is he the DA? Curious.
     
  7. time

    time New Member

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    Billy ... I wrote more about this in the corruption thread. Cardoza really has no connection to this case. He should not have been 'briefed' by law enforcement contacts, let alone, then go to the media with that. If law enforcement is really doing this then I would call that misconduct and have to question their motives. Cardoza might have had some inside contact (not sure), but he is in no position to have been briefed on it or to be speaking as some authority on what Nancy said - it's basically heresay at this point. There is probably some truth to it and he could have gotten the info form a source who was connected to a source - and so on. That doesn't mean the details are correct. Cardoza is also the one who claims Jaycee was held in isolation for the first 3.4 years - which could help the CCCSO out of responsibility for the 1992 sighting? Maybe he is just babbling to keep himself in the news.

    Cardoza is a media legal pundit. That could be all we need to know!!

    Cardoza is also co-counsel for Michael Gressett, the Contra Costa County Sex Crimes Prosecutor charged with a heinous rape of a female prosecutor 20 years his junior. There's a link in the Corruption thread (I believe) to a long article about that case where Cardoza is claiming the rape charge is purely political and in the end I think everyone's dirty laundry on both sides will be aired :innocent: I'm not sure if Cardoza would be doing CCCSO any favors, but I don't trust people like him to be taking any firm stance on anything or anyone's side. They seem to just be opportunists and claim they can say and do whatever because they are defense attorneys, so who knows. Anything Cardoza says should be suspect. While he seems to be going after the Republicans on the Gresset case, claiming it's political, he has other ties, like with a judge in CCC, Barabra Zuniga. He is probably more like Daniel Horowitz who blows with the wind (aka representing Michael Savage and trying to claim CAIR is a terrorist organization).
     
  8. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Now that you mention it, Cardoza is probably the source for most of the sensational National Enquirer scoops that are supposedly "based on law enforcement sources".

    The most recent is that Nancy is claiming to be the person who placed the 9-11 call to report that Jaycee emerged from a yellow Dodge van at a gas station and stared at her own missing persons poster (and that Nancy supposedly made that claim before the 9-11 call became public). This would also take the heat off of CCCSO for the poor follow-up on that incident as well.

    Disclaimer: By no means should National Enquirer be considered a reliable source, as we all recall the bogus business card photo (allegedly) of Jaycee that they put on their cover.
     
  9. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    He is a prominent defense attorney in the Bay Area. He assisted on Scott Peterson's defense team.
     
  10. time

    time New Member

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    You could be correct. When I researched the 1992 incident before, the whole 3 1/2 statement could only be traced back to Cardoza (btw, he made all the rounds on TV with this info also - like a mini media blitz). I really really take anything NE says with a grain of salt as far as taken it as fact (but, then agai, I don't think the regular media usually does a good job - most of the time we wouldn't know if we don't do independent research). Makes you wonder if people use these outlets to put out information sometimes. I honestly don't think journalists should be reporting anything where they claim the inside, anonymous source is law enforcement or judges or something of that nature. It give the public a false sense that the info is authoritative for one and for another, we have no way of checking up on the journalists and it can simply result in sloppy reporting.
     
  11. Natal

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    He is a former prosecutor, that is probably where his LE links come from.
     
  12. Natal

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    You bet they do. Because these news outlets use sources as the basis of their story, someone can place information (true or false) with someone who can then become the source. The target of the story (the prosecutors or the accused) have no way of countering such information prior to trial without compromising their case, so they just have to stay silent.

    The tactic works both ways, it can be used by either side to advance their agenda.

    The bottom line is that you can trust nothing reported about the case unless it comes from a direct source or their appointed representative.
     
  13. Billylee

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    I didn't think he had a connection to the case, but I wasn't sure. If he doesn't then anythng he says is probably just speculation on his part. That story was reported as told to the "Telegraph" a Brit paper. Were they the ones going around offering to pay for information? If he is not directly related to the case, then I wouldn't believe a word he says about what NG said or did. I think it's pure speculation on his part or like you guys said he's just trying to be in the spotlight. Do any of you recall anyone else saying that NG & PG had been "kid shopping", or was he the only source?
     
  14. my2sisters

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    I worry that he's positioning himself to be used as a "spin doctor" to protect the SO.
     
  15. time

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    The only thing is is that he is also claiming that woman is charging rape against Gessett sheerly for political reasons and wouldn't the SO be part of that old boys club? Course, like I said, he is an opportunist and maybe they don't hold any of his defense strategies against him. Maybe he is trading favors?
     
  16. my2sisters

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    Now that's interesting! We need to keep a close eye on this guy!
     
  17. SunnieRN

    SunnieRN Active Member

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    I hate to say that I think he has more personal reasons for this, and I think they include mucho dinero!! He seems very greedy and not at all worried about accuracy of information in any way shape or form!!
     
  18. SunnieRN

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    Wish I would have seen this prior to my own post as this is probably more accurate and much more eloquently spoken!!
     

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