The Motels, LLCs, crime at the locations and what reviewers said about the motels & c

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  1. Just K

    Just K New Member

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    The Motels and the violent crimes against either sex workers, johns or even employees
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    Originally Posted by deedee21 View Post
    Yes. Thats the call I am referring to. Vivalor, several days ago you started talking about hotels and you gave some insight into what goes on. I think its agood topic and it does deserve its own thread. Its informative.(end quote)

    I agree. In this case we know about:
    Super 8 (MBB) Manhattan 59 W 46th Street
    Yelp says this Motel is now closed: http://www.yelp.com/biz/super-8-hote...quare-new-york.It actually got a name change.

    Holiday Inn Express/Hauppauge

    (MW disappeared from and shortly before her disappearance ALC was asked to meet someone there/she declined)

    Budget Inn and the Best Western (Massapequa) -related to the use of MB's phone after she was missing
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/26/ny...dies.html?_r=0
    Cellphone records for Ms. Barthelemy traced the calls, which were to her voice mail, to two motels near Massapequa — the Budget Inn and the Best Western, according to the law enforcement official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is continuing.

    (The motel where the young man ran, IIRC, naked and traumatized from...anyone remember the details of that case-the name of the motel?)

    Capri Motor Inn in West Hempstead, N.Y
    I have always thought that the murder of the motel worker (shot inside her car in Lynnbrook) was suspicious. The reason being, this motel was known on those review sites as a place to get services. The 62 year old women had a shady 38 year old Asian boyfriend who has an unspecified warrant out of the Roanoke region of Virginia. He was arrested and charged the very next day. (MAY 2, 2011) right after she was found in her car. The family suspected the "boyfriend."
    http://www.newsday.com/long-island/n...ying-1.2851451
    "Dung V. Tran, 38, (Hempstead) was arrested Sunday night at his Front Street home, police said. He was charged with second-degree murder and being a fugitive from justice stemming from an open warrant in Virginia, police said... Police did not reveal any evidence against Tran or offer any information about the warrant."

    I always felt there was more to it than a case of DV. Something like her job may have included more than just working 17 years for the motel...even if it was just to turn a blind eye...something stinks about this case.

    A list of the Motels/Hotels that the GB4 used and any online research into those locations (LIErotica and UG for example) might yield some clues. And, if any of them had ever worked out of the Capri Motor Inn.

    Google Search: Capri Motor Inn West Hempstead prostitution:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=Capr...iw=939&bih=437

    Now this is very interesting: "owner listed is Lynbrook Motel LLC at 15 West 39th St. in NYC on the 15th floor." http://malverne-lynbrook.patch.com/a...omment_6292446

    Yet another LLC and seems to be associated with this group (Look at the address/map!) http://www.powerprofiles.com/profile...LC-NEW+YORK-NY (This came up when i Googled the phone number....along with several other listings:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=(2...ient=firefox-a
    Apple Core Holdings
    New Generations
    Fischer & Burstein PC (Law Firm)
    Core Performances

    All at the same address and phone number.

    Apple Core Hotels - 15 W 39th St, New York, NY 10018 this LLC at the same address, owns the now renamed SUPER 8/The Hotel at Times Square (MBB)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  3. Just K

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    Now, I followed the same type of Inquiry on the Holiday Inn Express and it is managed by a different group- Holiday Inn Ex - Hauppauge, 44 New England Management Company.

    If I have time I will do the same for the two Massapequa motels. But, if anyone else gets to it before me that would be excellent.
     
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    Happy to see a thread started...I am going to start doing as much reading on them as I can.
     
  5. Just K

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    you might get good results by Googling the name of the place and the word "prostitution." I spent hours reading the arrests at the Capri Motor Inn :D
     
  6. Vivalor

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    Good tip...thanks. Google is good for that.
     
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    So far from what I read of a review of the budget inn is
    "In the office, there is a bank of security monitors that show the parking lot. Once inside the room, one can't help but notice that there is a mirror that is suspiciously aimed right at the bed. One gets the feeling there's a budding porno industry growing out of this place." lol kinda made me chuckle so thought i would share.
     
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    Okay so I found about 50 sex offenders that live all over New York at a budget inn. I was going to post them all but there are too many to post so I started in on how many I could find at the budget inn. I found this guy who's address is RODEWAY MOTOR INN , 400 CARMAN MILL RD , ROOM 105 MASSAPEQUA Nassau New York 11758
    But I thought for sure that the budget inn was 400 Carman Mill Rd...and when I googled the address both budget inn and rodeway came up with the same address. Has there been a name change or are they one in the same?
    http://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/SomsSUBDirectory/offenderDetails.jsp?offenderid=3717
    I am by no means saying this guy is the SK or anything...just kind of makes you wonder if the budget inn is housing sex offenders left and right how many where there at the time of MBB voice mail trying to be logged into. And maybe the reason it came from a budget inn and best western is you know these guys have friends that they know...could of been over by a buddy's hanging out? Just a thought.
     
  9. Just K

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    Yes, the Budget Inn and Rodeway Inn are one and the same. For some reason they are still listed under the Budget name as well as the renamed Rodeway. From reading reviews about these low rent facilities, SOs being "housed" at these types of places seems to be a common complaint. AND, another complaint is that the owners are getting Section 8 funds while crime (drugs, assaults, prostitution, thefts, etc.) runs rampant.
     
  10. Just K

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    There may be a connection between the "Foot Spa" prostitution arrests and a "clerk" at the Budget/Rodeway Inn. Whose last name is the same as the listed owner (M Patel)
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...ticle-1.247187
    Nassau police also arrested Anil Patel, 33, of Massapequa, a clerk at Budget Inn, who allegedly bought some loot from the couple, including a laptop and video camera. He was charged with criminal possession of stolen property.

    One thing I stumbled on, apparently there is a huge Asian population in Flushing and there have been multiple arrests in the area near the Buget/Rodeway Inn and the Best Western (Massapequa) of Asian woman, from Flushing, for illegal massage at Nail Salons and Foot Spas.

    Another thing that stood out was the Red Roof Inn and (IIRC) another sketchy place the Orchid Inn...tons of complaints and negative reviews about both and they appear to be in the same general area as the Budget, Best Western and the Asian "Spas."

    Fred & Edna reminded me that MB moved into the basement apartment in the Bangladeshi section of that part of the Bronx. And in 2007, this Anil Patel was arrested for receiving stolen goods at the motel. In addition he may be associated with AAHOA (Asian American Hotel Owners Association) and once involved with AAA Foot Spa. https://www.google.com/search?q=Pat...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    Massapequa Foot Spa Arrests:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=Pat...540,d.b2I&fp=d944255652d059ba&biw=939&bih=437
     
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    If you scroll down on that page to "Similar Places," they list both the Budget Inn/Rodeway Inn and the Best Western on Sunrise Hwy.
     
  13. Vivalor

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    Well I've googled map all these hotels and looked at them from the street view and the one thing that bothers me is that there are construction sites close to all of them. One right across the street from one hotel that one of the voice mails were called from.
    When I get home from work later tonight I will have to do some searching on what years these construction sites were taking place.
    Also alarming that each hotel seems to be isolated. Easy to snatch a girl up if you had her walking alone.
     
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    Giagreen,

    The words "'I have friends who can take care of this @#$%" (a threat against Amber Costello's life posted on Long Island Erotic board just weeks before she disappeared) still haunts me. I CANNOT dismiss it as a coincidence. NO WAY. I just can't.

    Who are these "friends"? Apparently this poster was referring to a group and not just one. And according to this poster, this group took care of women who had become a problem.

    Do I think it is definitely JB and that Shannan was murdered by the same group of men or member of that group? No. I just don't know. But there is no way in heck I can rule that possibility out.
     
  15. Justiceforever

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    :seeya:JustK! I just wanted to bring these posts over to this thread because they show the connection between at least two of the victims (MBB/MB) and the Super 8 motel.

    Possibly even JT because she was last seen working near the PABT. She could've conceivably used the same stroll/motel (if it was open then)to find/service her customers. IMHO

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8021718#post8021718"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
     
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    Can you break this down JustK? The first link doesn't work so I'm having a hard time understanding this part of your post. It sounds like you've made some kind of connection. I just can't wrap my mind around it. :blushing: TIA
     
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    Could the calls be coming from just outside the station? From a taxi waiting for fares?
     
  18. LindsayLohan6

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    If the calls were made from someone walking on the street, with the large number of calls with John Terry n Melissa's sister, you would think police would be able to pick out the SK on foot. So it makes more sense that he is not on foot but in a car. And if he was in a car, the police would be able to find the license plate right? But if the SK was driving or riding in a taxi...it would be a lot harder to pick out.

    Don't forget Terry said the SK sounded drunk...this is a big clue
     
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    Does anyone know the exact address of the Holiday Inn Express/Hauppauge and the
    Budget Inn and the Best Western (Massapequa), or have a map?
     
  20. PickleChris

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    Budget inn is approx 1 mile east from the Best Western. The Best Western looks fairly normal when passing by but the Budget Inn (and the other names it has had over the years) has always been a seedy looking place. I've also heard some shady stuff that used to happen there when the nightclub was open next door.

    It's called roadway inn now. Read the reviews.

    http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g48128-d1156807-Reviews-Rodeway_Inn_Massapequa-Massapequa_Long_Island_New_York.html#LIGHTBOXVIEW
     
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    Yeah but the phone calls were made from time square and madison garden so I think there were to many people on their cell phones to tell.

    What would be interesting is what MB's sister and John Terry heard in the background of the phone call.

    I personally lean towards him being in a car just cause I'm sure he wouldnt want anyone over hearing him being creepy and saying he just killed someones sister.
     

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