The Sidebar - Harris Trial #3 *VERDICT - GUILTY*

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  1. FinallyRegistered

    FinallyRegistered Active Member

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    That is so sad. Thank you for sharing that story, because I didn't know it before now.

    My story about it involves a child's murder, so I won't post that here. That stuff is bad, bad, bad. Talk about needing a PSA.
     


  2. FinallyRegistered

    FinallyRegistered Active Member

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    Yes, 16 again with money and a phone.
     
  3. La Louve

    La Louve For Whitney and Teghan

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    Thank you jurors, for your commitment to bringing justice for Cooper.

    Rest in Peace dear Cooper.
    :rose::rose:
     
  4. Zoobiegirl

    Zoobiegirl New Member

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    BBM I am 55, when I was in third grade a classmate came to school with x rated playing cards. I didn't understand what I was seeing so I went home and asked about it. You can bet my Mom hightailed it down there the next day to put a stop to that! The other kids blamed me for "telling," which I thought was unfair since I was just asking a question about the content!
    Sort of off topic here but was just thinking how kids have been exposing other kids to stuff their p[parents didn't want them exposed to probably since time began. Heck maybe there were caves with nudie pics that good cave moms told their children not to venture into! (not saying Mom's should stop protecting our kids, just thinking how the more things change the more some things are the same.)
     
  5. dizzychick

    dizzychick Well-Known Member

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    I took it for 1 month I coundt tell it did anything and I didnt quit smoking either LOL I wished it had worked cause my lungs are shot
     
  6. FinallyRegistered

    FinallyRegistered Active Member

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    I couldn't quit either so I started vaping. I'm almost 3 years without smoking..
    PS - I PM'd you the WS thread on the case I spoke of.
     
  7. SuperTmo

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    Thank you for the info!
     
  8. cbeagle

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    LH refers to Cooper six times in that paragraph, yet never by his actual name ...

    ... "my son" ... "our child" ... "my son" ... "my son" ... "his pain" ... "his death" ....
     
  9. FinallyRegistered

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    LOL - I had forgotten about those cards. I am 10 years younger than you, but my dad had those cards, too. He also had a huge collection of Playboys. Yes, some things never change.
     
  10. SuperTmo

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    I am so sorry for how Cooper had to live his last hours.
     
  11. SuperTmo

    SuperTmo Well-Known Member

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    How? She couldn't even convince her own husband not to "forget" her baby in the car. She said in her statement for other parents to be wise and accept it can happen to them so they wouldn't walk the path she is on. But RH and LH both accepted this and were afraid of it, yet they did nothing to prevent it.
     
  12. SuperTmo

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    I'm still catching up but I think LH's statement about the verdict is simply appalling. She is angry that RH was convicted, probably out of fear for herself. She never even mentions Cooper's name, says she loved him, or misses him. It isn't about Cooper, it is all about her.
     
  13. dizzychick

    dizzychick Well-Known Member

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    who got a statement from her, can you send a link if you have one ?
     
  14. dizzychick

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    oh wow nevermind I found it, google already had the link and WOWSERS how bizarre I just dont know what to think of that, one thing she could have said is an expert had the idea to put your shoe in the back with the kid, great idea as long as you can remember to do that
     
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    This is a world where Kate McCann is an ambassador for Missing People, despite leaving her young children alone night after night ...

    Anything is possible ...
     
  16. KALI

    KALI On Time Out

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    I cannot imagine anything harder then to convict a seemingly loving Father of the cruel malicious murder of his 2 year old son.
    I Do agree with this jury, 100%.

    Mr. Harris made it perfectly clear, that his son, hindered his chosen life of sex.

    What a sick and devious man.

    I feel for these jurors, looking into the face and mind of such a distorted human being must be heart renching.
    They were definately brave to do so.

    I really think that little Cooper guided them and kept them focased.
    What a terrible case. What a terrible loss.
    Thank you jurors. Kali
     
  17. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    NO, but I saw that video too. It looked like plain clothed detectives, escorting Ross, still dressed in his suit, in an unmarked car, from the courthouse.

    I just figured that the verdict and paperwork came too late for him to take the jail bus back with the rest of his housemates?
     
  18. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    I truly think Stoddard and company when they first looked at the interrogation tapes and how the two parents reacted, felt this was a plan between them. Strongly. And you know it can be super hard for people who have formed a strong opinion to shake that, even when evidence doesn't pan out the way they though.

    I think Stoddard continues to have his suspicions about LH. Profound ones. For me, her behavior and statements were very bizarre and made me wonder initially whether she was involved. I never could reconcile, "Did you say too much." But as time went by, it seemed clear to me she likely had no involvement. I think her identity was wrapped around being Ross's wife and that deep insecurity made him the most important thing in her life, and pathologically intent on proving her love, devotion and loyalty. To this day.

    Poor Cooper. Mark Hacking, Scott Peterson, Ross Harris - all, IMO, men who would rather murder than divorce in order to avoid the shame of not being the golden boy or perfect Christian man.

    Nah. Her husband was found guilty of intentionally causing that hot car death. She won;t be advocating anything. No one would want her spearheading their efforts. She is no Kristie Reeves. http://www.rayrayspledge.com/

    I don;t know. Lots of attorneys totally believe their clients. I think it often naturally occurs when you advocate for a person. Some we know are not innocent or are not good people but it's easy to be seduced into believing them.

    In this case, although there has likely been some hyperbole, I think the defense team is truly convinced Ross is innocent. That was sincere.

    Agreed, friend.

    I think he did believe she was guilty but I also think the whole team felt she was crazy as hell and made so by her twisted parents. They felt for her.

    Before re-watching that video at the end, I understood reasonable doubts. It did it for me. It really did.

    You;re right. She took a big risk and knew her rights.

    Yeah, an afterthought really. Ï just sort of left him there all day." Ugh.


    WTH Texas?

    I thought the sexting might bias the jury as well. He is a predator, but I realized he can be a predator and not at all capable of killing his child. However, I thought that his behavior with women might influence the jury. And it might have. But I now think they would've found malice without it.

    At the end of the whole case, when watching what they did as they deliberated, everything I felt became crystal clear. For me. It was too much.

    And frankly, I don;t care that he cheated or sexted. The only bit of that that sickened me was what he did with minor girls. Otherwise, people are humans, sometimes they do things like that because they are pathetic or lonely or horny, or angry, withholding or cruel spouse or whatever. I consider all of it except the stuff with minors to be possible human mistakes that could have occurred for a host of reaons on the part of otherwise normal people.

    The agony and slow horror of his death haunts me. Especially as I am convinced it was intentional.
     
  19. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    You did. But the fact that people are surprised by the verdict doesn't mean the jurors voted the way they did because they were biased by the sexting. Which, as I was informed on here, was critical to the felony murder charge.

    While some may feel bias is the only or main reason they convicted, there are many who could not get passed the totality of the evidence. It was a flood, IMO.

    I wondered that to! It was so strange.
     
  20. ScotAng

    ScotAng Well-Known Member

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    Ah right, that makes sense. I was curious as the guy who sat in the second row every day, drove the car.
     
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