The Verdict Waiting Room #2

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

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  1. Freya1977

    Freya1977 Well-Known Member

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    It shouldn't matter his age. He should have been jailed decades ago, not living the life of the rich and famous. The creep may life to 100. Ugh!
     


  2. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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  3. Champagne4lulu

    Champagne4lulu Active Member

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    I had friends over on the weekend. I asked the men if there was any possibility that a razor could have caused those scratches. They all immediately roared with laughter and agreed without question there was zero possibility in their eyes. I asked them all (ladies and gents) if they were on the jury, would they say guilty or not? Most had read bits and pieces but not obsessively and all but one said guilty most likely. The last said probably guilty but they'd really want to read more before making a final call.

    Always interesting getting objective opinions.
     
  4. Btw I have to thank Websleuths sincerely for updating the program!!!
    I'm highly satisfied, that I don't have to constantly log in!!! Super class!
     
  5. Maigret

    Maigret New Member

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    And that's the scary bit - that he may get off because someone can't see the big picture painted by the prosecution
     
  6. FigTree

    FigTree Well-Known Member

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    I had a slight concern regarding the Jury coming back for clarification on the evidence: circumstantial.
    I wondered what they thought they had been listening to and seeing then over the trial.

    I think they (the Jury) have beyond a reasonable doubt as to the 'where' the crime was committed, and where the body was disposed of.
    I think they have to decide beyond a reasonable doubt 'who' committed the crime, with the evidence they have.
    If the jury decide that GBC lied regarding the evidence related to his grazed face and hence of the crime itself - then a motive would need to be strong enough to be a contributing factor as to 'why' it happened.
    I think the 'where' 'who' and 'why' of this case is strong.
    JMO

    I'm thinking it will be Wednesday before we get an answer, actually.
     
  7. Champagne4lulu

    Champagne4lulu Active Member

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    I should clarify that one person hadn't really followed the case at all so wasn't familiar but from what he had seen, he thought guilty, but wanted to read up on it. Hadn't seen nearly half of the evidence presented
     
  8. Champagne4lulu

    Champagne4lulu Active Member

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    This is what I was unsure about. He said he was told he was not allowed to search for her but in the early days Det ainsworth said it was "news to him". I don't believe the prosecution actually ever probed that with him or the police did they? They also said he never visited the command centre but wasn't one of his interviews from there?

    I might have missed it, but really just trying to view this through the jury and how he behaved following her disappearance.

    Anyone clarify?
     
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    Maigret New Member

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    I think he gave a statement from the show grounds - but it was when the show was on
     
  10. alioop

    alioop Verified Attorney (AU)

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    I love the auto save best.
     
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    I heard a report last week that a juror in the USA was dismissed after admitting he had watched a news report
     
  12. Tigerlily75

    Tigerlily75 Well-Known Member

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    Can I just put this out there - every now and then someone mentions Allison's (now missing) pyjamas. Unless I've missed something, I really don't believe Allison was wearing her pyjamas. What her girls described could easily have been what she was found wearing - trackie pants & sloppy joe jumper.

    I think she was killed before she ever had a chance to get ready for bed, somewhere around 10-11pm. I think GBC was home from Kholo Creek before 1.48am, when he out his phone on the charger. I think it was outside on the patio where they had gone out to "talk". Her pyjamas were never found the next morning (I asked @KateKyriaciou(?) and she said 'never found'), and I don't believe GBC would have dressed her.
     
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    Have never heard of that term .....
     
  14. marlywings

    marlywings Former Member

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    Folks this thread is about the trial of GBC & waiting for the verdict.

    It has absolutely nothing to do with birthing babies, pets, school holidays or Rolf Harris.

    All off topic posts will be removed.
     
  15. Champagne4lulu

    Champagne4lulu Active Member

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    What was the "subtlety" quote in ref to again? I remember thinking it was gold!
     
  16. Tangled_Web

    Tangled_Web Active Member

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    I continue to be confused about the "missing" pyjamas. On Day 12 of the trial, GBC said Allison was wearing pyjamas (only his word, I know) - but I can't figure out why he would say this only to have them missing (apparently) later. When asked by Todd Fuller he gave a ridiculous reply (the pyjamas were not in the photo). I doubt it's in any way critical to the trial but just something that has left me wondering.

    Baden-Clay said his wife was wearing blue and white chequered pyjamas, with a sloppy joe and blue hiking socks that she would usually wear around the house.

    He said he did not see her wearing anything else.

    “When we got home she was already changed into that,” he said of her pyjamas.
     
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  18. wakeskate

    wakeskate Just the facts, ma'am

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    I am assuming you are in the US as it hasn't been a law in Australia either ever or for a very long time.
    In the mid 1800's it became legal grounds for divorce, but it's not illegal.
     
  19. heloise

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    There are not too many houses around the (then) BC rental property. It is a rural area. There is not much through traffic, even in the daytime. (I live in a nearby suburb, and have several friends out there so I go to and through Brookfield often.) The church is next door to where they were living when Allison "disappeared" and the show grounds are opposite. Their house is quite isolated, even for Brookfield, where most people live on acreage properties. Having said that, sound does travel in this area (IMO), as it is quite low lying compared to other places in the vicinity: it is a hilly area but the area around the showgrounds is flat. Does that make sense? I do think Bruce Flegg, et al, heard Allison that night (and not from the girl scared by a spider web). Bruce Flegg is a medical doctor: why would he report hearing screams that sent alarm bells for him? No reason to, especially as he was a friend/acquaintance of GBC.
     
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    On 7 July, when talking about the three Cs each lending him $90,000, GBC said "these were long standing friends I was borrowing from" - and that's when our smoochable QC made his "subtlety" remark.
     
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