The Verdict Waiting Room

Discussion in 'Allison Baden-Clay of Australia' started by marlywings, Jun 3, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. PlainJaneDoe

    PlainJaneDoe Verified expert in neuroscience

    Messages:
    5,134
    Likes Received:
    33
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Oh no, falling asleep :( thinking of you alll and all who love Allison tonight :heartbeat:
     


  2. UHF

    UHF New Member

    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    If can still be classed as Manslaughter if there was intention to kill (Voluntary Manslaughter). For example: if the jury decided Allison had found out about the ongoing affair, attacked Gerard, and in self-defense he went too far.

    PS. Not suggesting this happened, just that Manslaughter is possible with intention.
     
  3. TootsieFootsie

    TootsieFootsie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,224
    Likes Received:
    38,260
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Even after the verdict whichever way it goes wouldn't we want to still keep discussing it for awhile.


     
  4. itsthevibe

    itsthevibe Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes good point. If you are strangling or smothering someone then if they reach out to stop you, and scratch you, then as the judge said, you would normally recoil, and it would be a chance for you to stop, essentially a wakeup call. So if you kept on going, really it is absolutely an indication of intent.

    God - the fact the jury asked about this - can it mean they are trying to reach a guilty verdict, or at least manslaughter?
     
  5. Smegal

    Smegal Member

    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I am wondering if one of the jurors is convinced it is manslaughter and perhaps the others are not and are trying to clarify the definitions correctly for that juror.
     
  6. JK673

    JK673 New Member

    Messages:
    702
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    On news reports on DAY 1 of the trial it said that GBC has pleaded NOT GUILTY to murdering AND interference of corpse.
     
  7. Bronson95

    Bronson95 New Member

    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    BBM

    Yes, it certainly seems some reasonable, level headed members of the jury are not buying the suicide theory!
     
  8. BrissyLass

    BrissyLass New Member

    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    But he didn't lead with that defence, he could have, but he went with the "not guilty your honour ...i was asleep defence"
     
  9. ford71

    ford71 Member

    Messages:
    148
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Oh I love this!
     
  10. JK673

    JK673 New Member

    Messages:
    702
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What r u talking about
     
  11. BreakingNews

    BreakingNews Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,382
    Likes Received:
    2,603
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gee, you are quick. The picture didn't come out and I deleted the post. It was a vivid yellow ribbon in the shape of those breast cancer ones etc.
     
  12. LadyBird1

    LadyBird1 Member

    Messages:
    942
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Oh, Allison's sunflower. Discovered all alone, standing proudly and gladly, tall and beautiful; 'Twas brought home lovingly, and nurtured;
    At the very time that Allison's alleged murderer faces judgement. And Allison receives justice. (Hopefully.)
     
  13. itsthevibe

    itsthevibe Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

    Messages:
    766
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I hope so, at least it's not 'not guilty'.

    <modsnip>.
     
  14. Moggill2

    Moggill2 New Member

    Messages:
    68
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is what I think (hope!) too - that the jury has already decided on murder but there is one juror that is not sure whether to go the full mile for 'murder' or whether to 'place it safe' or leave room for some doubt and only go as far as 'manslaughter'.

    Hope...Hope....Hope....this is the case!
     
  15. MRSA

    MRSA Member

    Messages:
    51
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    6
    I'm going the other way, I think the jury is excluding manslaughter on the basis of the defendant's lies, which go to intent.
     
  16. JK673

    JK673 New Member

    Messages:
    702
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Lol sorry
     
  17. squizzey1

    squizzey1 Verified insider - Allison Baden-Clay case

    Messages:
    942
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    does the jury retire for lunch or just go straight through
     
  18. BatWoman

    BatWoman Member

    Messages:
    251
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    18
    I'm really edgy today and need to get a move on to clean up after myself and drive back to the boonies. This must be so hard for the dickies. It's so near but so far. Waiting is torturous. I have to go through the roundabout to get home, I'll make sure the jury aren't having a seance there on the way.

    Someone asked what you'd tell the kids. I think you'd go straight to the most qualified/experienced counseller you could find and get their advice. It just brought to me that this is much more than kids losing both parents, they also have to put up with everyone knowing it and the intimate details. Their name which held such pride will now haunt them. THey'll question everything they knew about everyone they were close to. They'll need long term counselling. THey'll have to go through it all without their beloved mum. Those girls are in for a long hard road.

    I believe that the Dickies will have always had the girls best interest at heart and will have given them a story near the truth but without laying blame. You can't shield them completely because it's everywhere around them. They may have had someone go into the new school before they started to talk to the other kids. They would need expert guidance to allow these precious girls not to lose their childhood along with their parents. It can't have been easy with the strain between the families. They deserve a medal. :loveyou:
     
  19. BrissyLass

    BrissyLass New Member

    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    crickey I hope so, they need to be kept fed and given a break surely, if it was me in there I would want a ciggie break that's for sure!
     
  20. Frisbee

    Frisbee New Member

    Messages:
    23
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    All quiet on the KateKyriacou tweets.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice