Theories On What Happened to Caylee Part #8

Discussion in 'Caylee Anthony 2 years old' started by BondJamesBond, Jun 7, 2011.

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  1. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    Guess what. Recently, Cheney Mason has been saying that NO ONE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO CAYLEE AND PROBABLY NEVER WILL.

    THIS is from her defense team. So they LIED when they told you that little fantasy about the pool and the accident and the incest. IT WAS ALL LIES.

    Does knowing that change your theory any?



     


  2. Magdalyn

    Magdalyn New Member

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    My opinion ... Had Caylee drowned, Casey would have been calling 911 herself (after she verified Caylee had no pulse) and doing purposefully carppy CPR on Caylee whilst waiting for first responders to arrive. It would have solved the whole 'Caylee's a total buzzkill to my lifestyle' problem AND it would make FCA a perfect, tragic victim. The heartbroken mom. She'd know that Mom and Dad would be devastated for a little bit ... but it was an accident ... and Casey would milk the situation for all it's worth, both with all the attention (a fancy funeral and the focus will be MEEEEEE!) and with the "I can't work! It's only been 11 years! I'm still mourning!"

    And Daddy wasn't complicit. Casey has no problem throwing anyone under the bus. Least of all her father. Why would she wait three years to throw him under the bus? As soon as she got arrested, she would have screamed, "It WAS an accident and Daddy made me throw her away! Bad Daddy! _enis in my mouth! Lee! Boobies! Heeeeeeelp me!"

    And IMO, I think the only incest that *maybe* had happened in the past was some hinky consensual brother/sister experimentation that Casey may have actually instigated in order to have something to hold over Lee's head. George seems easily cowed by the women in his life. Between him and Casey, I see George as Casey's victim.

    I'm on board with the state's theory. Although I do think there was a Cindy/ Casey altercation the night before (which lead to Casey acting in a rage) and I do think George is full of poo on seeing Casey/Caylee the next day. :twocents:

    A side note: I like to imagine that today Casey was flipping between Fox And CNN, horns pulsating in her forehead and saying, "Who cares about the stupid debt ceiling? Talk about MEEEEE!"
     
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  3. HatesSociopaths

    HatesSociopaths Inactive

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    No mention in this thread of the knife CA found in FCA's car along with the doll and other items of Caylee.

    Who keeps a steak knife in their car? Anyone?

    According to what I just researched on Henkel duct tape, it is industrial duct tape which cannot be ripped. Thus the value of the steak knife.

    The cell mate (I forget her name) who told of FCA saying that she occasionally gave Caylee something to make her sleep is a key piece to the story. Also, one of FCA's friends said that Caylee could sleep right through parties in the same room.

    I would theorize in very similar way to prosecution - that Caylee was chloroformed in the front seat, then duct taped (including the heart sticker) to suffocate her, then thrown in the trunk. Then a couple days later, was taken to the A's home, backed car into garage, borrowed shovel, brought Caylee to backyard, changed mind, put back in trunk, eventually thrown in swamp.

    Caylee would have never been reported missing were it not for the certified letter to GA about the towed car. Had they not smelled decomposition, there would not have been the demand to see Caylee and the 911 call. Timer55 was how long FCA had to kill her parents, Caylee's birthday being that many days away.

    LA is the one person who got a truthful statement out of FCA: "Maybe I am a spiteful *****."
     
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  4. Magdalyn

    Magdalyn New Member

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    Yes on the knife.

    Has anyone else thought that if Caysey had just told her mom, "I killed her. I screwed up and I killed her. What do I do?" That Cindy would have rallied the troops, arranged for Casey to move away 'with Caylee' and threatened George and Lee to play along. Cause after watching that trial, I seriously think that family would say and do anything to fix Casey's problems and Cindy regrets that she made that 'rash' 911 call.

    That's why I think she was crying on the stand listening to herself call 911. I wonder if she was thinking ... If I had just forced Casey to admit what happened, the cops wouldn't have been called, we could have made up a story to tell family and friends about Casey and Caylee moving away and we wouldn't be fighting to keep Casey from getting the death penalty right now. (I also think that's why she suddenly tried to get the cops to arrest her about the checks. "What have I done?! Get out of my house Yuri and away from the stinky car! I have a crime to cover up!")
     
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  5. KarmicLaw

    KarmicLaw New Member

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    Wow, first Baez contradicts himself in closing by stating that we will never know what happened to Caylee, now Cheney? At least they are being honest. They did their jobs and they did it well. They won. They are a little like Bin Laden. I am sure that Bin Laden thought his team would cause some heavy damage to the buildings, but they got lucky when the buildings actually collapsed to the ground. In other words, the acquittal was part luck and unexpected. In fact, I think Baez might be afraid of Casey. But I digress....

    Two reasons why I know that GA wasn't involved in an accident cover-up.
    1. His reaction when Casey returned home from the first short jail stint when he could no longer contain his outrage and fear so he confronted Casey demanding answers regarding Caylee. This was witnessed by Tracy inside the house and the media outside of the house, after Cindy chatised him for going at Casey and made him leave. George left and went walking down the block. It's all absolute evidence. I think it's obvious that Cindy didn't want George to use that tactic because she was still dealing with her own feelings of guilt having gone after Casey in the same manner on or about 6/15/08 and all it did was alienate Casey and that is when they "lost" Caylee.

    2. GA may not have been the brightest cop in the squad, but his statement to OCSD overwhelming convinces me that he had added 2+2 and knew that LE was coming to the same conclusion. His pain and his grief was palpable. He was still trying to reconcile the fact that his own daughter was capable of such horror, while his wife was in such turmoil from her own guilt/denial/hope. He even admitted to the feelings he had for Caylee. As GA pointed out, that love is different from your wife or your child. It was evident that he was devastated by the loss of Caylee and felt overwhelming guilty that he was unable to prevent this entire nightmare. I think everyone can understand how heavy a burden that must have been to mentally and emotionally process.

    I don't think that Casey killed Caylee on the night of the 15th, but I can understand why that would be one theory. I think it is more likely that she "silenced" her in the evening of the 16th. Whether Caylee actually died immediately or during the night of the 16th, I believe that she was most certainly dead by the 17th.

    I never understood why she would call Jesse. I think she was desperately attempting to identify someone who could/would babysit Caylee without actually coming out and saying ""Hey, I need a babysitter for the night so I can stay the night with my boyfriend". She knew that any bs story of a work emergency and explanation as to why her Mom couldn't watch Caylee would never work in the long run. I think Casey recognized that she was out of options for so many reasons:

    1. She was jealous of Caylee and the attention that she took away from Casey. She broke up with Jesse because she felt he loved Caylee more than her and she certainly had reason to believe that her parents, being fed up with Casey's lies, loved Caylee more as well.

    2. She hated her parents. She resented her mother more than she loved Caylee. George was probably the one that challenged Casey, albeit in a controlled manner through Cindy. But Casey knew it. Casey knew that she could only con her Dad to a point, and then she had to switch to guilt and deflection. She had already demonstrated her propensity for lying about having sex, about the father of the baby, about graduating, about stealing money, not working. It was all catching up to her...but the parents were now between a rock and a hard place. How do they hold Casey accountable without running the risk of losing contact with their beloved granddaughter?

    So they went about life with Casey at the helm. Once the script starting falling all around Casey, she really had two options. She could admit to her parents that she was a lying, cheating, scheming, reprehensible excuse for a human being and would they please take custody of Caylee so she can go live her own life because if they don't she fears her reprehensible self might kill Caylee. Or she could kill Caylee. Casey chose the latter.
     
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  6. gngr~snap

    gngr~snap Verified Pediatric Nurse Georgia

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    I don't know who cleaned the car. GA
    was the man that was ocd about it. That
    car was very clean IF any significant decomp
    took place. I think the knife was used in the
    clean up and someone forgot to remove it.

    8GH,9UY.png

    hloroform & knife.png
     
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  7. com n sense

    com n sense She yells from the corners, but few seem to hear h

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    Respectfully snipped...

    I'm having a hard time with this one. There is quite a difference between a my husband & my child. I would die for my child, not my husband.
    Any real mother would be on their knees in grief if their child died by accident.
    Any mother who screwed, boozed & tatooed when their child died is doing only one thing..... Celebrating.
     
  8. Flossie JMO

    Flossie JMO New Member

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    Tell me more about Ginger pls
     
  9. concentric

    concentric New Member

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    Anyone find the detached videographer videotaping of Caylee under the highchair table and getting out of the bathtub a bit disturbing?

    Just asking.
     
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  10. KarmicLaw

    KarmicLaw New Member

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    No, I don't find it odd. Parents and Grandparents don't think of cute toddlers as sexual.

    The disturbing part is releasing it to the public because there are so many twisted people who will sexualize an otherwise natural event.
     
  11. Magdalyn

    Magdalyn New Member

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    I did, though I've only seen the breakfast one. All the video tapes we have of our kids when they were little, the camera person (usually me, lol) is talking to them. And at that age, they're so adorable the way they mispronounce things and the way they say sentences (even two word ones) with such conviction... Most people want to encourage the child to respond/talk more so you can capture their voice/personality at that age.

    Heck, mine are in middle school and I still speak to them to evoke responses when I'm behind the camera!
     
  12. Magdalyn

    Magdalyn New Member

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    I didn't find it sexual. I just found it weird the way the camera person didn't talk AT ALL to Caylee.
     
  13. Kat

    Kat Kind words do not cost much

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    Can't tie the knife to the duct tape unfortunately. There was a fiber on the knife but the fiber did not match the duct tape. Not shooting your theory down just adding on to it :)
     
  14. Nova24

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    Agreed. If you see a baby in a tub as sexual you might want to get some help for it. There is nothing sexual about it unless you the adult have issues.

    Maybe they shouldn't have released this footage because there are pervs out there that will get off on it. I know on a show say like Dr. Phil even if they are doing an epi on potty training they blur the genitals and heinie for this very reasons.
     
  15. mytoes

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    I don't think anyone thought it was creepy in a sexual way. It was creepy because she didn't interact with Caylee or respond to her in any way. It was like she was taping an animal at the zoo or something. It was also different because she was always shown hamming it up in other videos & encouraging Caylee to do the same.
     
  16. yllek

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    Ginger was one of the A's dogs that came up several times during the pet burying testimony. Cindy said they gave the vet a blanket to wrap her in and then she was bagged and taped so they could take her home and bury her in the backyard. Casey and Lee were present at some of these pet burials...
     
  17. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Who was the man who sang "You'll be a woman soon" to Caylee at her 2nd birthday party? That bothered me a little bit, I have to admit...even though it was probably perfectly innocent.

    And while I don't think it was the case here, parents and grandparents have been known to think of their children in sexual ways...anyone on WS knows that, so it was not an out of the question comment, IMO.
     
  18. txsvicki

    txsvicki Active Member

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    Casey will always live with the stigma that her child was murdered even though she was found not guilty. No one will ever be able to magically change it over to being an accident. IMO, there was a lot more evidence that really didn't get called much, if any attention to in the trial. I don't believe jealousy was any motive or spitefulness or the drugging to go party. The love of money is the root of all evil. During the trial there were no questions asked of anyone why Casey would not work, and about all the money she had stolen. Nothing ever was said about wills and life insurance. Nothing was said about the usual transport or timeline of Caylee's little backpack either.
    Cindy was on Casey's tail about the thefts, and talking about getting custody. That could have included threats to prosecute if she didn't hand over custody plus pay child support or daycare. Cindy's Dad was on hospice, and her mom is getting older. I've heard no mention of their will. Usually when parents die their money goes to ther child or to grandchildren. They would probably not leave a cent to George. Stealing from a man who was about to die is very telling. Cindy was the one in charge of handling those thefts. If Caylee had remained "missing" and Casey never charged then the thefts would have been forgotten and forgiven. No child or daycare to have to pay, and the grandparents would still be getting older and possibly leave money to Cindy. There was so much to show premeditation. It's not really even about how she acted afterward at all. Which, speaking of that, I believe that the day in bed with Tony wasn't even really about sex. It was probably about getting some sleep since she seems to have been up all night on the 15th. Casey says in a jailtape that she was up all night there and was sleeping all day. Why would she sit up all night long knowing that she had to watch a child and wasn't really even going to work at all. Something was in the works, IMO.
     
  19. yllek

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    I believe that the man signing to Caylee was Lee's roommate at the time...
     
  20. bookworm474

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    My thoughts today are, whaqt cleaning product could have been used that had chloroform? Did anyone ever make a list and were theor products in the house that were used. Wouldn't Cindy, if using a chloroform product to clean have gotten sick from it?

    What I see in my mond now, what if Casey found a product with levels of chloroform and doused the truck with that instead of making it from a formula. Would that have been enough for a child in the trunk to pass out. And if the tape was over the nose, how could she breate the fumes. am I getting lost here???/
     
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