This Verdict Proves My Theory

Discussion in 'Caylee Anthony 2 years old' started by Dark Knight, Jul 5, 2011.

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  1. Thinker Belle

    Thinker Belle Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, I think you are exactly right and you are definitely not the first person I have heard say something like this. Karla Homolka also comes to mind
     


  2. Tulessa

    Tulessa Well-Known Member

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    Bingo! Hubby & I both have said this...
     
  3. grandmaj

    grandmaj Former Member

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    :floorlaugh: wrong thread folks sorry.
     
  4. legalmania

    legalmania Verified Paralegal

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    That is not entirely true if you look through the link below there are quite a few attractive women that have been sentenced to life, and others sentenced to quite a bit of time, I've seen it both ways attractive as well as not so attractive women and men sentenced to life in prison, or sentenced to quite a stretch in jail and prison. I just checked the site and it was down they say it should be back up soon.

    http://www.dc.state.fl.us/ActiveInm...LL&subjecttype=ALL&facility=ALL&workskill=ALL
     
  5. Caligram

    Caligram New Member

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    I think that some jury members are too easily influenced by the courtroom behavior and appearance of the defendant. She was young, white, and not too bad looking if you overlooked some things. The overall image that was presented by FCA to the jury was extremely different when the jury was not present. Too bad they didn't get to see real close-ups of her when she was poking her eye or squeezing her nose to appear teary-eyed. I am surprised they didn't catch her examining the tissue for mascara, the single tissue held for all those hours. They didn't seem curious about how she would lower her head and cover part of her face to mimic shedding tears. Seems that they only looked at (1) her long hair and what it looked like that day, (2) the sweater tops which she kept tugging at to tighten for the males in the room, or (3) Perhaps the female jurors felt sorry that she had to wear those sweaters with such long sleeves.
    I am older than CM, yet he was allowed to touch her arm, her back like a fatherly figure perhaps that is what it was supposed to convey...I thought he was a lecherous old man who should have been told to keep his paws to himself. There was lots of stroking and comforting of FCA, which I thought wasn't right. Didn't the rules state that there were to be no facial displays or gestures. The DT made threats of grounds for mistrials, they blatantly broke rules, and in the end, FCA got away with murder.
    I do sincerely believe that if this defendant had been a young poor black female or a big burly-looking male there would have been no interest in respresenting and defending them. The jury would not have taken any time at all to determine guilt.
    This I believe but I am white, and old, and prejudice still exists throughout this country of mine.
    IMO
     
  6. krkrjx

    krkrjx Nezahrávej si se mnou.

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    I suspected this to be the case when the verdict was read; now I not only suspect it, I am convinced without a doubt of it. The recent info that the jurors prefer none of them speak out is what convinced me. I think the stronger personalities on the jury will not leak this info but the weaker ones might eventually break so, IMO, if these jurors' do have a self-imposed gag order it is in hopes of keeping the weaker ones away from media and allowing the stronger ones to field the questions, when the time comes.
     
  7. ExpectingUnicorns

    ExpectingUnicorns . . . only the pure of heart can see.

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    Yep. I, personally, wouldn't consider Casey a beauty. But she is above average in attractiveness. She also makes the effort, even in clothes not to her standards (i.e. the knots at the back of her shirts and sweaters in court), to present herself as well groomed. It all makes a difference, as attested to by this interesting article from Newsweek Magazine:

    "Remember the story about the 1960 Nixon-Kennedy debate? It goes to show our beauty bias is nothing novel. At the time, radio listeners thought Nixon had won, but those watching Kennedy’s tanned, chiseled face on TV, next to a worn-down, 5 o’clock-shadowed Nixon, were sure it was the junior senator. There are various explanations for some of this. Plato wrote of the “golden proportions,” which dubbed the width of an ideal face an exact two thirds its length, a nose no longer than the distance between the eyes. Biologically speaking, humans are attracted to symmetrical faces and curvy women for a reason: it’s those shapes that are believed to produce the healthiest offspring. As the thinking goes, symmetrical faces are then deemed beautiful; beauty is linked to confidence; and it’s a combination of looks and confidence that we often equate with smarts. Perhaps there’s some evidence to that: if handsome kids get more attention from teachers, then, sure, maybe they do better in school and, ultimately, at work. But the more likely scenario is what scientists dub the “halo effect”—that, like a pack of untrained puppies, we are mesmerized by beauty, blindly ascribing intelligent traits to go along with it."

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/07/19/the-beauty-advantage.html
     
  8. Caligram

    Caligram New Member

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    And, from what I understand, this also plays into the genetic part of us that ensures "survival of the species" by unconsciously selecting those who best conform to the strongest, most fit specimen one can attract. Nature at itrs finest. Perhaps the accused should be forced to wear bags over their heads and sack clothing to not unduly influence the jury. There are so many disadvantages for a haggy snaggle-tooothed prisoner sitting in that defendant box, least of which should be looks.
    It is what it is.....unfair, dammit!!!
    IMHO
     
  9. charok

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    i agree, but im sure jury saw pics( although it was just like what two, three max of her living the "bella vita" @ the club ie, the devil in a blue dress pictures..im pretty sure they seen pics of casey and caylee. ( wheres shes smiling, looking (ahem) pretty..)...so hence i agree, if youre even somewhat attractive, young and white you CAN get away w/ murder...
     
  10. scorekeeper

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    I wonder how the jury feels now that they have had a chance to possibly see all her actions, faces and such while the jury was out of the room....I think all prisoners should have to wear their "jail" clothes to court and all juries need to be professional.
     
  11. krkrjx

    krkrjx Nezahrávej si se mnou.

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    Of course, physical beauty can detract and can sway a person's thinking. I am not sure why it would have happened in this case, though. It didn't work for Darlie Routier. It didn't work for Debra Mielke (sp?) and even though the photos of Amanda Lewis at the time of her arrest are anything but attractive, in court she was cleaned up and looked pretty by most standards. The evidence in these cases was far less convincing than in the Anthony case, IMO.

    Sorry if it offends, but I think Casey's jury saw this case as their ship coming in, and that is why they voted the way they did. Don't forget that half the jurors wanted to convict on at least one of the felony charges--the others convinced them to change their minds and I don't think they were convinced to change from GUILTY to NOT GUILTY based on Casey's looks.
     
  12. PeteJ

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    Thanks for this post. I agree. As far as what the jury thinks now, I really don't think they care. just my opinion.
     
  13. PeteJ

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    Unfortunately, this is true and its a sad situation for those of us who want justice for all. The DT pulled out all the stops, the inmates seat lowered below that of her DT, those loooong sweater sleeves pulled down over her hands, poking at her eyes, those little pats and hugs from her DT.....MOO
     
  14. PeteJ

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    Agree with most of your post but iirc didn't most of the town where Amanda Lewis lived think she was of a lower class or a redneck type? People did not approve of her lifestyle? Their opinion is not mine BTW. That case was a travesty. So much for a jury of ones peers. Casey was considered from a middleclass family by many. So, she was bestowed with positive character traits she did not possess...good mother etc MOO
     
  15. com n sense

    com n sense She yells from the corners, but few seem to hear h

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    ITA with this. She even ripped apart peoples lives while she was behind bars.
    She's a pro at it.
     
  16. Trapshooter

    Trapshooter New Member

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    krkjx I must've missed the recent info about the jurors preferring that NONE of them speak out! Was this recently? Can you point me to a link please? :seeya: Thanks!
     
  17. krkrjx

    krkrjx Nezahrávej si se mnou.

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    I'm working on finding the link. It is posted in one of the threads here but I do not recall which one. I will post it here if I find it.

    ETA: Found it! I am not sure how long the link will be good for, but here it is:

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    Originally Posted by suzihawk
    I posted the following in another thread but it should go here as well...


    One thing that stood out to me in the article about HHJP not releasing the names until October...

    "Eckstadt said fellow jurors have said they don't want each other talking to the media."

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,5310429.story

    I can't help but wonder why they would feel the need to make this decision or agreement as a group. Why the need to discuss it at all, actually? Why not leave that up to each individual? Then, of course, there were those that apparently broke ranks and talked anyway. Makes me feel very suspicious.

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  18. hornswoggled

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    I am in agreement with you. Except for the 11 hours. I think it was more like 2, possibly 3 hours deliberation. I believe they knew they were leaving the next day, and came dressed for it. Which means they did not really deliberate on that day. As for the evidence, the ONLY thing they "reviewed" was that little heart sticker during the trial that for some reason seemed important enough to them to ignore Judge Perry's admonition not to talk about the case, and decided that they wanted to see it RIGHT THEN. WTH???? Was that the deciding factor?? Please tell me it wasn't!! Even Cheney Mason was concerned that they spoke among themselves about the sticker before they were supposed to discuss anything about the case. I find that very troubling. Were these people really that ignorant? Or is there some underlying reason that I cannot fathom? Looking at all the evidence piled up on the table and floor, not to mention all the hours of testimony from scientists, and they wanted to see the sticker???? I cannot make sense of any of this. It is quite the mystery.
     
  19. gxm

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    I'm not sure if this opinion will get me in trouble with the mods but I've never thought of KC as "pretty." She is an average looking, young white woman. And IMO it's the young white woman part that played in her favor. She is also petite. And, as a petite woman, I have the life experience that people tend to think of you as child-like. (I severely sprained my ankle about a month ago and you wouldn't believe how many people have told me that my ankle brace is "cute"!) So KC's size may have played a part as well.
     
  20. affinity

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    I remember the many arguments here over the past three years about whether or not Casey Anthony is pretty. She is most certainly pretty...that is why this case went the way it did from the start. She doesn't look or act like a killer. I was one who wanted to believe that she killed Caylee "accidentally". After watching the entire trial, I changed my mind and understood that she did it on purpose.

    Casey's looks and femininity kept her from the gallows. If she'd been old, fat, male, ugly and any color but white...she'd have been sentenced in 2009-2010. For one thing, she would have had a public defender (one who wouldn't have made a career out of defending her).

    All of it reminds me of some guy saying to me a long time ago: "Neurosurgeons and genetically blessed women in their 20's have it made, they make the lion's share of money in this country".
     
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