TIMELINE: Shannan Gilbert

Discussion in 'Long Island Serial Killer' started by Theforeigner, Jan 5, 2012.

  1. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

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    Correct. And if you listen to the Here Women Talk interview ( link ), Shannan's sister clarifies:

    Sister: We found, um, a Dr. [redacted] who actually had called my mom. um. The day after she was reported missing. And basically told her, um, a fabricated story. Cuz when we had confronted him about it he denied it. But he told my mom that he saw shannan and he basically uh, er, ran um, a little like uh treatment place, and he saw shannan, took her in, and then in the morning, you know, he let her go. And then the driver came to pick her up. So when we confronted him ...

    Woman: So let me just reframe this because... so, your sister runs missing from 1st man's house. There's 3 911 calls, police respond but never find her. And this man calls your mom and says I have a shelter or treatment center for people like this that are in this lifestyle and she stayed here and then she just walked off the next day, and she's fine.

    Sister: Yeah. That's what he said. And um. We tried to get more information. And he just. I dunno. He just. He was lying.

    Woman: And that's before you knew she was missing. Cuz he calls right away.

    Sister: He called. Um. He called. Like I think a day after we reported her missing.
    Which arguably jives with CPH's statement in his letter to Morairity ( link ).

    Even so, the question would be, why on earth would he agree to call Shannan's family in the first place? Esp considering he also claims, in those same letters, he had never even seen, much less, met Shannan. What was he planning to tell them?

    "Hello, you don't know me and I don't know your daughter, never heard of her, but these two guys came by and asked me to give you a call"

    That, imnsho, is ludicrous.

    Given his apparent propensity to lie, I highly doubt much in those letters to Morairity are true. Would love to find out what sort of relationship MP & CPH *really* have. And yes, I do believe they have some sort of arrangement, so to speak. And that the key to Shannan's death will lie therein. Whether said arrangement has to do anything with the other murders is another story altogether.
     


  2. Redbird

    Redbird New Member

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    When I was doing a lot of googling regarding Michael Pak I came across this:

    Court: Kings Civil Supreme
    Index Number: 010460/1993
    Case Name: CHANPAK,EUPHARASIA vs. CHAN PAK,MICHAEL
    Case Type: Uncontested Mat2 Abandonment
    Track: Unknown
    RJI Filed: 04/26/1993
    Date NOI Due:
    NOI Filed: 03/30/1993
    Disposition Deadline: 07/01/1994
    Disposition Date: 05/11/1993
    Calendar Number: 1993-007125U
    Jury Status:
    Justice Name: NO JUSTICE ASSIGNED

    Attorney/Firm For Plaintiff:
    ANTHONY W. AGARD Attorney Type: Attorney Of Record Atty. Status: Active
    26 COURT STREET
    BROOKLYN, NEW YORK 11242
    718-330-0566

    Court: Queens Civil Supreme
    Index Number: 019553/2000
    Case Name: PAK, SO YOUNG vs. PAK, MICHAEL
    Case Type: Matrimonial Uncontested
    Track: Standard
    RJI Filed: 11/03/2000
    Date NOI Due:
    NOI Filed: 11/03/2000
    Disposition Deadline: 09/14/2002
    Disposition Date: 12/14/2000
    Calendar Number: MU104213
    Jury Status:
    Justice Name: DAVID GOLDSTEIN

    Attorney/Firm For Plaintiff:
    HYONG SON HONG, ESQ. Attorney Type: Attorney Of Record Atty. Status: Active
    75-21 BROADWAY (3RD FLOOR)
    ELMHURST, NEW YORK 11373

    Court: Queens Civil Supreme
    Index Number: 004489/2008
    Case Name: HUANG, YING vs. PAK, MICHAEL M.
    Case Type: Matrimonial Uncontested
    Track: Standard
    RJI Filed: 03/03/2008
    Date NOI Due:
    NOI Filed: 03/03/2008
    Disposition Deadline: 06/04/2009
    Disposition Date: 03/06/2008
    Calendar Number: MU134194
    Jury Status:
    Justice Name: DUANE A. HART

    Attorney/Firm For Plaintiff:
    YING HUANG - Prose Attorney Type: Pro se Atty. Status: Active

    Being unfamiliar with counties in NY, I could not figure this out enough to pursue this info any further. Could anyone help me out here in finding if this is related to our Michael Pak and if this indicates he has been in the area a long time, before his arrest, and if these are previous wives.
     
  3. the quiet girl

    the quiet girl Inactive

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    It looks like info for Brooklyn & Queens. Brooklyn= Kings county from long ago.
    These are 2 out of the 5 boroughs that make up NYC.
     
  4. Seaslug44

    Seaslug44 Active Member

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    unless you can link his date of birth or address with these cases, you cannot verify if it is him. His name is extremely common. Most likely, Michael is his nickname too and not his legal first name.
     
  5. WINDSOR

    WINDSOR Well-Known Member

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    As we are at the two year anniversary of Shannan's dis-appearance, let us all pause for a minute, and pray for all those who need our prayers.

    WINDSOR
     
  6. Theforeigner

    Theforeigner Well-Known Member

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  7. BKS

    BKS Sleuthhound

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    Peace
    B
     
  8. To Kill a Mockingbird

    To Kill a Mockingbird Karma Will Get LISK!!!

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    Shannan

    Hopefully your life in the hereafter is a lot more loving and peaceful than your short life on earth. You went to hell and back again many many times in your short little life. One can only hope that there is peace - on the other side for you little girl.

    One can only hope that you were escorted into heaven by a band of angels and greeted by your grandparents and loved ones on the other side who have loved you many times over. For all the people who have gone to psychics to get answers to your death - NO ONE has a definitive guideline as to what has happened to you.

    Hopefully - you are not traumatized on the other side. Hopefully you are at peace.
    May you be in bliss - on the other side - surrounded by loved ones and angels and friends.
     
  9. Maddalenasgirl

    Maddalenasgirl New Member

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    Look here-I find this connection very curious and find myself wondering about it a lot.
     
  10. twocuriouscats

    twocuriouscats Searching for Killer Owls

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    Me too. I think he (SY) is great as a POI. Unfortunately, we cannot sleuth him. Darn, but a leopard can't change his spots so if he is LISK he will make a mistake and get caught. MOO
     
  11. Theforeigner

    Theforeigner Well-Known Member

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    FYI:

    I found that Alex Diaz, Shannans boyfriend, has a new girl working for him, at least this new girl is using Alex Diaz's phonenumber, 201-737-xxxx, in her adds, She call herself "Tiffany" and also "tiffan8130" :



    http://www.myproviderguide.com/escor...ady-to-ge.html
     
  12. Redbird

    Redbird New Member

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    I am getting an error message for this link.
     
  13. Theforeigner

    Theforeigner Well-Known Member

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  14. Theforeigner

    Theforeigner Well-Known Member

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  15. Redbird

    Redbird New Member

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    Thanks. I got screenshots.
     
  16. kilahchris

    kilahchris New Member

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    I believe this girl Shannan Gilbert was high and disorientated on drugs. In her state of hallucinations she attempted cross a marsh and drowned in the water. They are several components to the story to lead me to believe her state of mind was not rational.
     
  17. Justiceforever

    Justiceforever New Member

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    I tend to agree with you KChris. Welcome to WS! You might however want to post this in the thread below entitled Shannon Gilberts death declared an accident. This is the sticky timeline for SG the disscussion threads are down below. No worries, you will find your way around by trial and error like most of is. Have you had a chance to read thru the threads? It helps. If SG's death was an accident then is it fair to assume that you think the GB 4 (bodies found on OP) are unrelated?

    If you comment on this, you should probably do so in the "Shannan Gilberts death decared an accident" thread below ;)
     
  18. nonghost

    nonghost New Member

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    Need some help clearing the time of the doctors call to SG's mother.

    According to the sister, it was the day after they filed the missing person report.
    What date did they file that report?

    You should take the date of the doctors call as the '2nd' off the time line as this date is contradicted by the mother and sister.
     
  19. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, firimar!

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    Dr. Hackett called Mari, from his wife's cell phone, on May 3.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18559_1...ort-shannan-gilberts-final-minutes/?pageNum=4

    "48 Hours" has since recently obtained phone records from Shannon's mother that confirm Hackett actually did make a call to Mari Gilbert exactly when she said he did on May 3.

    Mari Gilbert filed a missing person report for Shannan on May 4.

    http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2010/12/missing_jersey_city_woman_shan.html

    the report was filed by Gilbert's parents on May 4, Jersey City police said today.
     
  20. gypsy gal

    gypsy gal New Member

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    Thanks for the timeline. I find it very interesting that she saw that scary and frightening movie with her boyfriend that night/day. If she was in a psychotic state from drugs and/or mental health issues the violence from that movie could have triggered her to believe that she was like one of the victims in that movie.
     

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