TN - 4 dead, several injured at Waffle House, Nashville, Apr 2018 *CAPTURED*

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  1. Fairy1

    Fairy1 VOTE!!!

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    Welp, looks like we need some tweaking with the current gun laws, huh? Wonder how many more of these senseless, random murders it will take.

    And.....just want to point out that today's hero, James Shaw, Jr., was not a "good guy with a gun." Just a regular dude with a strong will to live. Like most humans. Good on you, James!
     


  2. LolaMoon08

    LolaMoon08 Well-Known Member

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    Why would they think they didn't have authority to seize the weapons that were registered to Travis and in Travis' apartment?? His Father was not the registered owner of the weapons!!!

    And people can miss me with his parents feeling threatened by him and that's why they gave him the guns back. What his father did was illegal. He knew it was illegal for Travis to be in possession of any firearm, but even gave him an AR-15. I needs to face charges and his right to have firearms needs to be revoked too. He doesn't deserve to own them.
     
  3. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Father volunteered to take the guns and keep them away from his son, when LE came to confiscate them, from what LE claims. I don't believe for a second his son threatened him. When LE came for the guns, why did he say he wants to keep the guns?
     
  4. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

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    The explosion was hours later tho??
     
  5. ahotch2

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    Lots of places he could hide but he'll have to eat at some point and so will need to show his face. He's talked of killing himself before. I bet he will do just that if he hasn't already.
     
  6. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yeah I agree with the suicide thing, the fact that he is apparently on foot, easily identifiable, and still hasn't been caught, means that he is hunkered down somewhere or already deceased.
     
  7. Seeker404

    Seeker404 Former Member

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    Or, God forbid, armed and dangerous, he's continued his once-interrupted killing spree, or stolen a car, or God knows what. But I agree that suicide is a likely outcome.
     
  8. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Well he’s got the cover of darkness now, so that’s definitely a possibility.


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  9. mpnola

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    I will be very surprised if he hasn't had a diagnosis of schizophrenia along the way. He has exhibited MANY episodes of being out of touch with reality. And those are only the ones we know about, due to police reports. He should not have had guns. At all. Ever. Big fail.

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  10. Jax49

    Jax49 Florida Native

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    Apologies if already posted. Warning: the interview with McMurry is intense as he describes the injured and deceased.

    http://www.wkrn.com/top-news/man-pu...ring-mass-shooting-at-waffle-house/1134585328

     
  11. cybervampira

    cybervampira Well-Known Member

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    Lockout planned at Nashville schools within Waffle House shooting search area

    Metro Nashville schools in the area of a shooting at an Antioch Waffle House early Sunday morning will be in lockout Monday morning if the manhunt for the suspect continues.

    Schools within the search area have been checked and cleared by Metro police and Metro Nashville School Security, according to the district.

    Students are free to move throughout the building as usual during a lockout, but no guests or visitors are allowed to enter the building.

    Family members who must check out their child early should send a note or call the school notifying them of their plans and arrival.

    Specific schools involved in the lockout weren't named as part of the announcement, but the district stated schools "in the immediate vicinity of the Waffle House are included," and schools could be added depending on updates from police on the search.

    Lockout procedures at the designated schools will continue until the manhunt has ended or the police say the suspect is no longer in the area, according to an announcement by Metro Nashville Public Schools.

    [...]

    https://www.tennessean.com/story/ne...reinking-nashville-schools-lockout/540887002/
     
  12. Jennifer17

    Jennifer17 Former Member

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    But James is black, Someone is probably trying to fInd a record on him as we speak, Like the white man who stabbed a black man in New York and they released the victims record.
     
  13. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    We’re talking about the facts regarding the events, not race. He’s a hero and that’s a fact. This isn’t a place to drag the discussion into hypotheticals that have nothing to do with the topic. There are other forums on which to race bait.


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  14. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    As far as I can tell he didn't obtain a permit in TN. Guns were the ones that were supposed to have been confiscated from him in IL. But it doesn't appear to me the guns were ever actually taken by police. Police went to take his guns, but his father was there with a valid firearm card so police just left the guns because father promised to keep them secure.
     
  15. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    The question is whether or not the father broke any laws by returning the weapons to his son. It was certainly a massive lapse of judgement and one that many people will condemn him for, but I’d like to know what the law says.


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  16. jjenny

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    Seems like the gun control law is a joke. Here we have an individual (Travis) exhibiting episodes of bizarre behavior, police know he has multiple guns but the guns aren't removed. The guns were supposed to be removed after Travis went to the White House, but police just left the guns with Travis's father. To me that just sounds nuts.
     
  17. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yeah I couldn’t agree more. He clearly had severe issues judging by the pool, Taylor Swift, and White House incidents. He shouldn’t have had access to guns. Period. His dad bears responsibility as does the legal system. He exploited a loophole that shouldn’t exist.


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  18. jjenny

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    I would say that the law needs to be clear that if police confiscates the guns, they have to actually confiscate the guns, not leave them with relatives. I don't understand why police felt that they had to leave the guns with father (they seem to be implying that deputies didn't believe they could actually remove the property (guns)), which seems so bizarre to me. Travis was an adult, not a minor. Travis' property isn't the same as his father's property, one would think.

    "Huston says Reinking's father has a valid firearm ownership card, and his officers didn't believe they had any authority to seize the weapons. He says the father agreed to "keep the weapons secure and out of the possession of Travis.""

    http://www.wjbdradio.com/local-news...ffle-house-shooting-firearms-card-was-revoked
     
  19. Midge Montana

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    IMO, if someone gets guns taken away, they need to be destroyed, not given back. To anyone.
    I'm not anti-gun one bit, but I am anti-guns in the hands of the wrong people. It is often so hard to identify who should and shouldn't have a gun. We never know when someone is going to snap, that may have been fine up to that point. In this situation though, LE did know there was something wrong. Enough to order his gun license revoked and remove guns from him.

    I'm not one to shout for more gun laws, as we do a terrible job of enforcing the ones we already have. But this, as a new gun law, I could really get behind. IMO
     
  20. cybervampira

    cybervampira Well-Known Member

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    I don‘t want to start a gun discussion here but just out of curiosity:

    Is there any good reason why a private citizen needs to own an AR-15 style rifle? Is it used for hunting or sports or what is it for?
     

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