TN TN - Alcoa, BlkFem UP7700, 17-25, in creek near Knoxville airport, Mar'03

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  1. amberdawn723

    amberdawn723 New Member

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    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/7700

    Circumstances: Scattered remains were found in drainage creek off of Cusick Road, east of Wright Road, near Knoxville Airport

    Estimated age Adult - Pre 30
    Minimum age 17 years
    Maximum age 25 years
    Race Black/African American
    Sex Female
    Weight (pounds) , Cannot Estimate
    Height (inches) 64, Estimated
    Notes on body parts recovered:
    Mandible Missing
    Body conditions
    Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
    Probable year of death to 2002
    Estimated postmortem interval 8 Months

    Other distinctive physical characteristics:
    Extremely protruding front teeth (almost horizontal) with 2 Left Incisors missing prior to death.
    Comments
    Mandible missing; 9 maxillary teeth present with no restorations; extremely protuding anterior teeth (almost horizontal) with both left incisors missing before death.

    Clothing with body:
    -Sleeveless T-shirt with "I Don't Need a Great Deal of Love, Just a Steady Supply" on front
    -Blue Fleece Jacket
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  3. amberdawn723

    amberdawn723 New Member

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  4. amberdawn723

    amberdawn723 New Member

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    This woman looks somewhat like the Alcoa doe.
    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/111/53/
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    Status Missing
    First name Felicia
    Middle name Dishelle
    Last name Coleman
    Nickname/Alias
    Date last seen November 09, 2001 22:25
    Date entered 12/12/2008
    Age last seen 23 to years old
    Age now 35 years old
    Race Black/African American
    Ethnicity
    Sex Female
    Height (inches) 60.0
    Weight (pounds) 140.0
     
  5. hayaletcatcher

    hayaletcatcher Active Member

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    Rule outs
    Tonetta Carlisle 1973 Tennessee
    Lakisha Jones 1984 Tennessee
    Laresha Walker 1976 Tennessee
     
  6. alawaysslueth

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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it could possibly be Gillum. Her "circumstances" section says, "**Partial remains belonging to Niani were found northeast of Fountain Hills, AZ in 2005**".
     
  9. UniqueDisease

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    Someone to look into:
    Ashley Tyronda Norah https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9345/20/

    Persuasive factors:
    1) She went missing at 17, falling in the age range on NamUs.
    2) She was 61 inches tall as compared to our Doe, but that number may have been on school records, a learner's permit, and she had grown since then.
    3) She matches all of the basic identifiers, having black/brown hair, having a weave in her photos, and being African-American.

    If Ashley had died immediately, it would be too long of a time frame, but considering there are no details on the finer points of her disappearance, it might be worth a look. She had to get to Tennessee if nothing else, and we've all heard stories of runaways, with friends, lovers, or alone, who then meet foul play.

    Does anyone think it's compelling? I'm just getting started and trying to go off of data as I'm really just terrible at visually comparing people.
     
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    watergirl62, thanks for pointing that out. I have heard of people removing them without medical help, but it seems there wouldn't be any sign of that on the skull

    Fairlyn looks visually similar.
     
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    I had to google... wow, there are many youtube videos about how to take your own braces off. I learn so much here.
     
  13. alawaysslueth

    alawaysslueth Member

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    Could this be Cleashindra Denise Hall


    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1056dfar.html



    Things that make me think she might be a match

    They look alike

    The age and time frame match

    They both have a chipped front tooth



    Things that makes her not a match


    Cleashindra Is four inches shorter than the UID

    She has a scar on her right knee

    She has pierced ears
     
  14. carbuff

    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Scars and pierced ears are irrelevant with skeletal remains; there's no way to tell what the unidentified woman had.

    Sent from my SM-T560NU using Tapatalk
     
  15. alawaysslueth

    alawaysslueth Member

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    Should I go ahead and submit her??
     
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    This is where I get hung up: I think Cleashindra has some pretty nice teeth. Our UID has extremely protruding front teeth (almost horizontal). That is pretty distinctive, IMO.

    Is there anyway that this description is not a reflection of her natural adult teeth? If I had teeth like our UID, I might be self-conscious and not smile as readily as other people? I don't know... I have stared at many teeth looking for her, and excluded several missing persons on this criteria.

    F100166f16-01-9781437717303.jpg

    https://pocketdentistry.com/16-permanent-anterior-teeth/

    I am pretty new to the unidentified forum. Please correct me if I am misreading this.
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    No, that looks like what I'm seeing.

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  18. alawaysslueth

    alawaysslueth Member

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  19. UniqueDisease

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    alawaysslueth it would be amazing it it was Clea, but based on the facts surrounding her case, I'm fairly convinced she was deceased the day she disappeared or very quickly after. If she went missing in 1994, the UID they found had only beed dead for what, 8 months in 2002?

    I'm new to this, but isn't that too wide a range to consider?

    If it's not, I need to know so I can expand out the searching I was doing. I was trying to stick within a couple of years of the discovery date. Definitely absolutely not trying to step on any toes, just want to be as helpful as possible.
     

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