TN - RV Explosion, Nashville, 25 Dec 2020

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  1. Dallas Volunteer

    Dallas Volunteer Former Member

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  2. ElementalLaura

    ElementalLaura Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    If the MSM speculation about 5G paranoia does turn out to be part of the motivation, then it’s very likely that he did announce his views to those he was close to, whether online or in person. JMO.

    If this was also a suicide, then there’s a personal connection to the location/target and timing, IMO, beyond ideology. The ideology or conspiracy theory often confirms an existing belief or bias rather than creating one out of whole cloth, IME.

    Unfortunately, it’s often difficult to separate out individual motivations after the fact from the dark stew of discontent these individuals often have. I will hope that the only life lost is the individual responsible for the bombing, although the trauma inflicted on those who were injured, those who narrowly escaped injury, the neighborhood, the community, and the culprit’s family is significant and long-lasting. MOO.
     
  3. worm

    worm Well-Known Member

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    I’ve just yet to see anything that I would consider “abnormal” or suspicious about this man. Loving his pets as family? Plenty of people do that. The abundance of cameras at his home? A lot of people are protective of their property, and for good reason with theft and such. As I mention before, the home maintenance isn’t odd behavior since a lot of people are DIY types, and a friend described him as a “techie”.

    I really want to agree with @StarryStarryNight above and thinking that we will find out something soon but agree too, it may be a big IF.
     
  4. HMSHood

    HMSHood Admiral-Class Battlecruiser

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    What I find strange is why would he sell the two properties to a woman who has connections that are unknown at this time.
     
  5. Ontario Mom

    Ontario Mom stay safe ♥ be kind

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    I couldn't disagree more. What I have seen are folks that are pointing out that it doesn't appear (at least at this point) that his intention was human casualty, other than possibly his own. What I have seen are people giving a fair and accurate account of what he did and didn't do (so much as we're able to put those facts out there, at this early stage of the investigation).

    Even when we vehemently disagree with someone's position or what they've done, giving an honest account of their position or actions, is vital. (Especially on a fact-based forum at this one).

    It could have been much worse, and it wasn't, and that's something to be thankful for.
    That doesn't mean anyone is this guy's apologist or anyone's redefined the norms of deviant behavior. It means folks are being fair and accurate.

    jmo
     
  6. Ontario Mom

    Ontario Mom stay safe ♥ be kind

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    Connections that are only unknown the public, at this time.
    I have no doubt LE know exactly what the connection is.
    I'm suspect the reasoning (or some of it, anyway) for why he did what he did, all of it, will be made known to the public, eventually.

    jmo
     
  7. Dallas Volunteer

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    Per Officer Luellen @ NPD officers press conference the song broadcast by the RV was Downtown by Petulia Clarke.
     
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    We might find out that he did indeed make it known.
     
  9. worm

    worm Well-Known Member

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    I just humbly think we may be chasing rabbits with trying to make sense of his property sales or the warning. The man set off a military like blast in the middle of a huge city with homes close by, the fact that no innocent people were killed is a miracle, not the norm. I don’t mean this to be critical of anyone’s opinion as I’ve openly mused at the same things. I think we all are lost on the “why” and that’s understandable.
     
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    I agree. I do not want to speculate at this time.

    I know people who have committed suicide have given away items for free.
    https://www.mhrbeo.org/Downloads/Suicide_Prevention.pdf
     
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    They probably did nothing about it because they didn't take it seriously
     
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    rbibm.
    Nashville explosion: Questions remain as investigation enters Day 3
    Dec 27 2020
    ''FBI Special Agent Jason Pack told The Tennessean agents visited Fridrich & Clark Realty's Green Hills office Saturday evening as well — following up on leads in the case.

    Owner Steve Fridrich said the company reported to the FBI that W had previously worked for the company. He confirmed speaking with agents Saturday.

    “We are one of the nearly 500 people who so far have contacted them with tips," he said. ''

    ''Fridrich said W was hired four or five years ago as a contract laborer for computer consulting for the company. Then this month, W informed the company in an email that he'd no longer be working for them, Fridrich said.

    No reason was given.

    “He seemed very personable to us – this is quite out of character I think," he said. ''
     
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    A favorite song of mine, the lyrics seem to make sense with regards to this case, imo, speculation.

    ''Downtown
    Petula Clark
    When you're alone and life is making you lonely
    You can always go - downtown

    ...

    (Full lyrics can be found at source: Musixmatch')
     
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  14. MrsWatson

    MrsWatson Moira Rose's Wigs

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    I don't give this guy any kind of a pass just because no one was killed. People don't build bombs and blow things up with the primary motivation being preserving life. Timothy McVeigh was determined to make a statement by blowing up a federal building. He considered the loss of life, including children, "collateral damage". This guy could have figured, hey, I gave a warning, if people don't take it seriously, not my problem.

    MOO
     
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    We don't know if the tips were specific enough.
     
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    I think you're just misunderstanding what your fellow posters are trying to do.

    Many are trying to understand the POIs motives. Trying to get into the bomber's head. So they're pointing out that from a profiling standpoint, his warning message is significant.

    There are always certain things a criminal only does because it's necessary to accomplish the crime. Why did the purse snatcher break the car window? Well, the car was locked and it was his only way in, unless you had a dummy key or a crowbar or something. So that modus operandi can be important. Someone who had a crowbar might indicate a level of planning. Whereas someone who just busts a window could be planned, but also just spontaneous.

    All that is different from signature. What things were not necessary to the commission of the crime that the suspect did anyway? It might be mailing a manifesto. In a different kind of case it might be taking souvenirs from a crime scene.

    In this case, do you need to let off a warning siren? Maybe, maybe not. If you only cared about blowing up a building, then no. In that case, it's part of the signature, it says that the warning siren was important to the bomber. Maybe to minimize loss of life.

    If the intent of the warning siren however was to get civilians out while perhaps drawing first responders in, then I'd say it was part of the MO and not the signature. It was something the bomber felt was necessary to get the chess pieces lined up the way he wanted them.

    So where you see people minimizing the bomber's actions, I see people simply trying to sort out what transpired and why.
     
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    As far as we know, he transferred the properties to her for free, which is even more curious than selling them. What's the connection between him and this woman? She claims she didn't know about his recent property transfer, but there was another one a couple years prior, which obviously she had to know about.
     
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    We only know what has been reported. Which wasn't a lot.
     
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    But would a quick claim deed incur income taxes as to a gift? Vs flowing through an inheritance at death which at that value would Escape taxation?
     
  20. Dawookie

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    I dont think that Nashville Yards has anything to do with it. It's almost a mile away from the bombing site and he could have chosen other places much closer to it.

    I think in the end, this is all going to have to do with AT&T. I don't think it's a coincidence it was parked outside an AT&T transmission building as we now see all the problems they are having because of the blast.
     
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