Found Safe TN - SLP, 14, Madisonville, Monroe County, 13 Jan 2019 #5 *ARRESTS*

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  1. Misngpersresearcher

    Misngpersresearcher Well-Known Member

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    2:00 PM Courtroom 460 19-mj-13-slc USA V. ROGERS, BRYAN Preliminary Examination
     
  2. Kadoober

    Kadoober McSassmouth

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    Oh! I wonder if it was this first audio recording that was referenced in the complaint - if THIS is the one that he said he never sent to LE because it wouldn't stand up in court.

    The defense document says:

    KV can be heard talking to her adoptive father, trying to elicit an admission about the rapes. Her adoptive father can be heard talking about their “encounters,” but he never directly admits to sexually abusing KV. She did mention that she was afraid of him, but he replied (with words to the effect) that if KV chose to go off with someone else, he would no longer force himself on her.

    This actually makes sense, and works towards clearing up the perceived contradiction of him saying he never sent the recording vs. delivering it to the FBI. Two different recordings. One, audio only, where RP does not confess, and one that is the 'clear and strong' evidence that they discussed.
     
  3. Misngpersresearcher

    Misngpersresearcher Well-Known Member

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    2:00 PM Courtroom 460 19-mj-13-slc USA V. ROGERS, BRYAN Preliminary Examination
     
  4. Julia966

    Julia966 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I don't know. I'm not buying into his story, really, and I don't know what the plan actually was. The mailing to the FBI is interesting, but did it tell the FBI where she was? Or did the letter have any plan to turn her over to authorities?
     
  5. PommyMommy

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    That's why I'm asking if there was a prior video (the blurry one) or if "Show them the recording you got earlier" is in reference to the audio recording. (Which doesn't make much sense since you don't show someone an audio recording - you would play it for them or let them listen to it.)

    Good grief, I just noticed your ETA and realized we're saying the same thing. :p

    MOO
     
  6. oviedo

    oviedo Well-Known Member

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    an audio recording wouldn't be "blurry" - I know I read that somewhere... let me look
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    Stranger Offered To Help Teen Raped By Her Dad, Only If She Recorded It
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    He claimed he didn't alert police about the alleged sexual abuse or turn over the video to authorities, the affidavit says, because he thought it was blurry and would not hold up in court.
     
  7. Kadoober

    Kadoober McSassmouth

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    Thank you! I was looking for it earlier and came up with nothing.

    I keep thinking that if she recorded the conversation with RP, that she likely used the video feature on her phone, but put the phone down somewhere so it only picked up audio.

    Technically still a video, but with audio only content.

    But I will admit that I am basing that only on my ham fisted attempts to use my phone, so... there's that.
     
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    Jim_M Honest American Bison (Buffalo)

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    oviedo Well-Known Member

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    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Except the defense presented their best evidence in that memorandum. And it's the complete reverse. He tried hard to convince her that the ONLY way she could escape and not be sent back is if she recorded herself being raped and sent it to him.

    It was not until after she continually said she could not bring herself to do it and would kill herself or run away if he didn't help her, that he then reluctantly (IMO) said, "well then run to a friend's house. Hope for the best." Etc.

    There is zero excuse for not immediately calling the police and asking for help for this child. IMO it's utter nonsense. She didn't need to produce child porn for him and be transported across state lines by a fully grown man she met online, in order to be rescued.

    He had their entire damn conversation where she described the abuse, in writing.

    One call.
     
  11. Misngpersresearcher

    Misngpersresearcher Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, I have an account so it works for me. I also just checked, there are no new docs filed that are available yet.
     
  12. oviedo

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    I don't understand how his attorneys can claim there was no "'quid pro quo" from page 5? The way I read the conversation was he couldn't help her if she did not obtain the video recording.
    He would help her, he said, but on one condition: She would have to record her rape on video and send it to him.
    Stranger Offered To Help Teen Raped By Her Dad, Only If She Recorded It
     
  13. Kadoober

    Kadoober McSassmouth

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    Yep, you are correct, I just went back and re-read that page of the complaint, and it does state blurry video. Thank you!

    That inconsistency between his statement and his purported actions is really bothersome to me, I got over excited at the idea of it being cleared up.
     
  14. oviedo

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    Here is a thought regarding the late mailing to the FBI - what if she was getting wary of him and wondered why this very important video had not yet been turned over to the authorities? I will be very interested to see if the prosecution has the package/envelope allegedly mailed to the FBI....and what was in it really. I'm still upset he kept the video on his computer. I think there is a purpose to that. otherwise, delete it IMO.
     
  15. oviedo

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    I agree. I can't wait to see what else was uncovered on the electronics and in the basement. IMO
     
  16. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Again, that all seems like an incredibly and suspiciously circuitous route to help this child when one call would've done the same without the risk:"I have a child online here who told me she's being raped and molested for 12 years and is about to kill herself if I don't go get her. This is an emergency. I have it in writing. He's threatened her life so she's terrified to speak. Help her."

    Boom.
     
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    He may have assumed he was communicating with another 30 yo man living in his mother's basement, until he actually saw the video.
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    Jim_M Honest American Bison (Buffalo)

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    I really truly hear what you are saying! I was there after reading the original complaint. Then more information dribbled out to make my thoughts change. Again. To soften my anger at him insisting she video another attack. Which was coming, whether SLP videoed the attack, or not. Think about what she had already faced. About what she continued to face in that house.

    That is where I've been since yesterday. Will the court proceedings at 2pm change my view once more? I don't know.
     
  19. Julia966

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    It's interesting that the package to the FBI (supposedly) contained her letter, two recordings with/of her step-father, and then a recording letting her parents know she was OK. No indication of her whereabouts, and in fact, efforts were made to hide that. Was his thinking that the evidence would enable the FBI to arrest the step-father, satisfy her mother that she was OK, and then she would continue to stay with him? If the FBI hadn't come 'round, I wonder what Phase II of the plan was going to be.
     
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