AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #26

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  1. dacjess

    dacjess Where is Summer

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    I went through the CM interview with H, looking just for information on times. I included the time stamps from that interview.
     


  2. dacjess

    dacjess Where is Summer

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    From H interview with CM:


    • “ she said she’d be over in like five ten minutes” (2:45)

    • H says they came to his house around 11am
      • “Had to have been like around 11 right…or 10 or I think it was at least 10 because I was up all night” (5:26)

      • CM clarifies this could be wrong because H says he’s not good with times
    • H says they got to Priceless for the milk a few hours later
      • “I think it was a few hours later” (8:44)
    • H says they go from A’s to pick up CH at the hospital
      • “Not even like 10 minutes later we go to Walgreens” (10:55)

      • “We put the prescription in which is probably like 10, 15 minutes because…” (11:20)

      • “Then we handed a prescription they said about like 10, 15, well it was gonna be 30 to 35 minutes” (11:30)
    • H says they go from Walgreens to discount store to get cigarettes/vapes/Twisted Tea then go to the horse stable. No times mentioned. (16:55)

    • H says at some point Summer goes under water for 10-15 seconds (24:27)
      • “I was just like I don’t really get scared or nothing to be honest I just get a little bit like spooked” (25:14)

      • Says “at least like four seconds” from the time he saw her in the water to the time he got her out of the water (26:17)

      • Says “then not even like 15 minutes later she was, we went to uh grab that prescription that she needed” (28:29)
    • H says from the water hole they go to “this thing called Hippie House” (29:08)
      • Says they were in there “like five minutes tops” (31:41)
    • H says after Hippie House then they “went to grab that prescription” (31:56)
      • CM asks how long H thinks it took for that prescription to get ready (32:06) and H responds “they said 35 minutes. So we could’ve been that could’ve all took 35 minutes or more.” (32:10)
    • H says from there (Walgreens) “we go to Sonic” (32:52)
      • A says the Sonic is on Ft. Henry Drive
    • H says they eat the slushees on the way to Priceless (33:37)
      • Says “I think they were in the store for an hour maybe” (34:55)

      • “A little bit long but not that long” (35:00)
    • A says she thinks the one (picture) “with the milk jugs was sitting right here in front of my house because that’s exactly how that baby was before they left” (36:50)

    • H says “it was a short period of time after they dropped me off that they said that she was missing” (26:01)

    • CW asks when the next time is that CBW contacts H. H says “around 7:30 that day” (40:12)

    A says H was interviewed by TBI Wednesday, then CBW “came here Thursday” (43:30)

    @Tiff23fr
     
  3. dacjess

    dacjess Where is Summer

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    Going to move on to CM’s interview with CBW at the swimming hole now
     
  4. December

    December Verified insider - Kathy Jones case

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    They did, but i have never heard of a creek that is always the same depth. Sometimes creeks are deeper and run faster.

    Now, surely, LE or searchers looked at the creek and can say what it was like on 6/15. Even if SW didn't put so much as a toe in it that day, she might have walked along it.
     
  5. MyBelle

    MyBelle Well-Known Member

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    If the swimming hole was higher, the creek would have been higher. Yet another contradiction in statements. JMO
     
  6. Lillymac

    Lillymac On Time Out

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    I also remember it being mentioned.
     
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    hdo82 Well-Known Member

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    The horse pond is nowhere near there home.
    IMO no contradiction, 2 very different bodies of water and many many miles apart.

    EDITED: IMO the creek isn't an important factor. Maybe a distraction for the boys though.

    I am searching MSM and previous threads, we discussed this weeks back.
     
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    The creek was higher when CM and CW did the interview at the swimming hole. It had rained after the 15th.
     
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    I had not realized that DW was actually with LE. Is that even allowed during tracking? Might it not confuse the dogs? MOO
     
  10. MyBelle

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    My point is that rain would cause both bodies of water to rise.
     
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    He says he was with them, apparently asked to walk with them?. He claims there were about 4 other handlers with dogs that day as well. Including dogs from the local prison.
     
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    So the swimming hole is at a creek??

    I thought it was part of the reservoir off of the Holston River?

    I will go research again.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that both DW and CW looked for Summer that day. JMO.
     
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  14. dacjess

    dacjess Where is Summer

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    Just to be clear, this is a mash up of interviews, right? Because I just watched the entire H interview and I see some of it in here but it’s definitely paraphrased, yes?
     
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    He asked to go with them? I'm sure they responded, "Of course, Mr. Wells!"
     
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    December Verified insider - Kathy Jones case

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    The creek, even though it may have been shallow (probably), seems to come up a lot. I think SW liked the creek and perhaps even went down to it a lot.

    I am not saying the creek became a raging rapid or anything. Even if it was a little deeper (which i don't know that it was), i don't know that it could hurt her unless she fell or something. Idk that SW even went to the creek on 6/15.

    I just think the boys were sent to the creek because it was a place she might go.

    How far is this creek from their house? Is it far enough that if a person was by it and screamed they'd be more likely to be heard by a neighbor? Is it far enough that SW would not have heard her mother and grandmother calling her name?
     
  17. Mountain_Kat

    Mountain_Kat Heca, Firimar !

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    Patrick Henry Lake (where the " Horse Pond " is located ) is actually a reservoir with a hydroelectric dam. So the water level varies constantly. The " horse pond " is not an actual pond, it's just a cove on the lake.

    https://tnstateparks.com/assets/pdf/additional-content/park-maps/41-warriors-path.jpg
     
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    December Verified insider - Kathy Jones case

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    The swimming hole is at the river.

    But, probably if it rains in Kingsport, it also rains in Rogersville (maybe).
     
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    Thank you @Mountain_Kat, I thought I was losing my mind due to lack of sleep and watching videos repeatedly. One less thing to research.
     
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