AMBER ALERT TN - Summer Moon-Utah Wells, 5, Rogersville, 15 Jun 2021 #29

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  1. CSIDreamer

    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    I thought Rader (is that his name?) made mention of it, too. JMO
     


  2. Gardenkeep

    Gardenkeep Former Member

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    That's where the truck comes in for me. Given the description of painting materials in the back of it, a local independent who perhaps was contracted to paint a home on that road? Could they have honed in on Summer while they were in that little store plaza?
     
  3. NuttMegg

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    I never heard that Rader said neighbors were denying searches, maybe it was the Wells property? But, Rader did contradict Don on where the dogs hit. Rader said the driveway, Don said, without proof or LE verification, that she was scented at the bottom of the dog trail.
     
  4. December

    December Verified insider - Kathy Jones case

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    There's the easement crew. I am sure they did more cutting than just the Wells' property. Did this cause even a minor traffic diversion (or perceived delay) that could divert cars?

    ETA: i live on a tiny road and people get impatient on it. So, don't think people will wait one minute.
     
  5. BeckyF

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    From memory, the only 1 that has said this is DW.
     
  6. LeeJay55

    LeeJay55 Well-Known Member

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    DW seems.pretty adamant
    I am.very aware u can search!
    Never.said.u can't!
    I'm just.saying why.LE would!d t want.them.to.search!
     
  7. MrsWatson

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    Can anyone easily access the video that Dave Rader talked about neighboring properties and searches? I'd like to hear it again to see just what he said.

    TIA if anyone can help.
     
  8. LietKynes

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    Agreed.
    The only person who claims the neighbors refused LE searches has been DW.
    LE have not officially said that they were barred from searching for Summer.
    And tbh, I doubt very much that any neighbor would have told LE to 'buzz off'; if asked if their yards could be searched for a missing little girl !
    Imo.
    Crouching on my phalanges, lol.
     
  9. NuttMegg

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    I'm not sure Rader was interviewed after the last search attempt. IMO. The other interview IIRC was on the DutyRon show.
     
  10. December

    December Verified insider - Kathy Jones case

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    @LeeJay55 , on i think the first video with CM and SJ, they are talking about keeping the family (except the missing one) together and not letting them roam around. They talked about it as if this was just standard procedure these days. They didn't say why though.

    ETA: any family, they said to assign one or more officers to make sure everyone stays where they're supposed to
     
  11. CSIDreamer

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    Maybe search the media thread. I'm searching in it now.
     
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  12. LietKynes

    LietKynes Well-Known Member

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    bbm
    I understand what you're saying. :)

    IMO -- there are two reasons why LE might not want relatives searching :
    1. LE have a good idea of where to look and what they might find and don't want the relatives traumatized.
    2.LE have other reasons for not wanting relatives to search as in preserving possible evidence ?

    It's all so vague right now, so it's anyone's guess.
    My opinion is that LE haven't barred Summer's family from searching wherever and whenever they'd want to look ?
     
  13. CSIDreamer

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    CW,and DW could certainly request it to get National Attention for Summer. Put the spotlight solely where it belongs. On finding Summer. MOO
     
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    December Verified insider - Kathy Jones case

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    I know people frown on YT, but there are true crime channels that would do an episode on SW. Or there were...

    But, even those avoiding the drama would probably do a brief video that shows videos and photos of her and things like that if asked. Just because she's five and she's missing.
     
  16. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    But did LE state that the neighbors would NOT let anyone search their property ??

    I know DW stated it but not sure (or I can't remember) if that actually came from LE or not and if not, then we can't believe it. IMO
     
  17. LeeJay55

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    Nancy Grace would have had a.field day with this!
    Wonder what David Marshburn has to.say about Summer!

    She needs.a.voice!

    Jmo
     
  18. Oriah

    Oriah Verified SAR (K9, Police, Maritime)

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    It is, in most cases of missing children, SOP to not have parents/immediate relatives or household members engage in immediate search efforts. LE and SAR have established protocols that they follow, and there are many reasons for that. As difficult as it is, typically the protocol for parents of a missing child involves the parents remaining in the home, providing as much information as possible to LE about the missing child and the circumstances, and basically allowing LE and secure SAR to do the initial searches. Depending on the circumstances of the case, that period of time maybe be 48 hrs... or much longer. Just wanted to clarify from a professional SAR standpoint.
     
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    DW
     
  20. MrsWatson

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    So after looking at the Dave Rader vid transcripts with Duty Ron, I am not seeing him talking about any neighbors refusing searches.

    The only person I remember saying this is DW. Did anyone find anything different?

    It definitely didn't come from LE.

    All MOO
     
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