trial day 33: the defense continues its case in chief #96

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  3. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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    So I take it tomorrow, a late start time, will be the juror's questions?

    tia
    fran
     
  5. Schuby

    Schuby Under the thumb of The Man

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    I kind of said this on the other thread but I'm bringing it over, I don't think people get how odd that book thing is. I've had therapists. If one of them randomly sent me a self-help book, I think I'd feel so strange I'd just stop seeing them.
     
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    It's so obvious Nurmi DOES NOT like Jodi.
     
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    What makes it super creepy is he isn't even her therapist! He was there solely to evaluate her and only met with her 12 times over 3 years!
     
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    Schuby Under the thumb of The Man

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    I'm very interested in the jury questions, I think they may be even more enlghtening than the jury Q's for Jodi.
     
  9. getReal

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    I had Transient Global Amnesia at the end today ... did Palin Willmott complete her redirect when they broke for today?
     
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    Nurmi woke up and took a sip of water when a**l s*x was brought up though:furious:
     
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    fran Former Member

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    Last night on Dr. Drew, he and his TH's agreed, it was out of line. They all said they've never received a gift from the doctor and Dr. Drew said he's never done it either.

    JMHO
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  13. TigerBalm

    TigerBalm Pray for all the missing and innocent people whose

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    My hippocampus say no she didn't.
     
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    Glad this redirect drivel is over:sigh:

    Pick your poison, Nurmi or JW. . . I don't know who is worse?!:what:
     
  15. Liebchenmutti

    Liebchenmutti Verified Juanette!

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    There is something called Bibliotherapy when a therapist will recommend a book to you or will loan it to you. I'm an avid reader & I have a Master's in Library Science so I love doing research & reading. I've had therapists recommend certain books, and frequently they have a library in their office.

    BUT...Samuels was out of line sending her a book/ordering it from Amazon or whatever he did. He was not her therapist, he is supposed to be unbiased--when you're in therapy it's OK for your therapist to like you! NOT when being forensically analyzed. He's a quack & professional courtroom ho.
     
  16. Schuby

    Schuby Under the thumb of The Man

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    Yes, that, and that title?, "Erroneous Zones,"? You just can't send something like that to a patient!
     
  17. getReal

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    No question about it ... Nurmi is far worse than Willmott. Both are ineffective, but Nurmi is much more mind-nurming.
     
  18. BritsKate

    BritsKate Past mistakes should teach you to create a wonderf

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    I question how much impact she'll really have when she's queried on behaviors exhibited by Jodi extremely consistent with an abusive personality. When she's questioned about very common markers in abusers totally missing from Travis' personality. And when she's pushed to the wall over how to explain her seeming willingness to totally dismiss abusive behaviors on the part of the defendant. It is a lot for the jury to get past in order for her to have an impact. And while the entire list may not make it into evidence, this jury has already called Jodi out on controlling behaviors, the hallmark of abusers.

    Behaviors consistent with an abusive personality...

    Jodi:
    Moved to Mesa after their relationship ended - pursuit in a very classical sense.
    Slashed the tires on his car - damage to personal property.
    Sent a 'warning' email to a prospective girlfriend.
    Snooped through his text messages.
    Stalked him repeatedly.
    In my opinion, very likely cyber stalked him.
    Consistently violated boundaries of personal privacy.
    Snooped through his online accounts.
    Knew his ATM pin # and garage access code.
    Dismissed his voiced concerns over them having sex.
    Showed evidence of high manipulation through their phone recording.
    Isolated Travis in the not so classical sense that because of their sex life, Travis would have been unable to confide the reality of their relationship to many.
    Threatened suicide as emotional blackmail.

    Behaviors inconsistent with an abusive personality:
    Encouraging Jodi to date other people.
    Not escalating the relationship to a more serious nature very, very quickly.
    No evidence of stalking or harassing Jodi once she moved back to Yreka.
    No escalation of violence according to testimony on direct.
    No isolation of Jodi - this doesn't mean keeping her from 'his' friends - it means systematically shutting down her every 'outside' resource, sometimes to even include work and family.
    No evidence of financial abuse - instead he was lending her money.
    Nothing to prove incessant emails, non-stop text messages, or constant phone calls on Travis' part.
    No outward evidence of jealousy on Travis' end. Not rising to the level I would expect from an abuser, anyway.
    No testimony from friends or family, in court or elsewhere, to indicate an easily triggered temper, impatience, possessiveness, etc.
    No proof he circumvented her movements - she didn't live with him and he even lent her his car.
    Didn't fly into a rage over a ruined BMW.
    Seemingly actively tried to help Jodi on many fronts.
     
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    Does anyone if Juan get a recross for the experts?
     
  20. SmoothOperator

    SmoothOperator Sadly what connects all these puzzles is that ther

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    Deleted due to my being mistaken.. she changes up the fact that Travis ran down the hall instead of thru the closet..not that she ran back down the hall..my apologies for the confusion.. I was wrong..
     
  21. Liebchenmutti

    Liebchenmutti Verified Juanette!

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    But I can be lulled into a nap when Nurmi's at the helm. Willmott is so shrill and choppy it makes me cringe.
     
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