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Discussion in 'Oscar Pistorius' started by beach, Mar 9, 2014.

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  1. beach

    beach Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Oscar Pistorius: South Africa gears up for its 'trial of the century'

    (CNN) -- He was one of South Africa's favorite sons, an amputee track star who defied all the odds and sprinted into the hearts of millions during the 2012 Summer Olympics in London. She was a staggering beauty with the brains to match, a law graduate and model whose star was on the rise.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/africa/oscar-pistorius-trial-preview/



    Pistorius channel goes on air in South Africa

    http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_306483/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=Ip4glGHn
    Watch live: Oscar Pistorius murder trial
    Follow events from Pretoria as paralympic athlete Oscar Pistorius appears in court accused of murdering his girlfriend, the model Reeva Steenkamp.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor.../Watch-live-Oscar-Pistorius-murder-trial.html


    Links:

    Full Indictment-4 Counts-107 Witnesses

    http://www.scribd.com/embeds/185695...=1&view_mode=scroll&show_recommendations=true

    http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-UPDATES-Pistorius-broadcast-trial-ruling-20140225

    http://www.channel24.co.za/TV/News/DStvs-Oscar-Pretorius-trial-TV-channel-wont-be-tabloid-20140228


    Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/oscartrial199

    https://twitter.com/GeraldImrayAP

    Live Streaming:

    http://www.wildabouttrial.com/one_off/oscar-pistorius-trial-live-stream/

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/03/oscar-pistorius-trial

    http://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/97919-oscar-pistorius-murder-trial-live-streaming.html

    Live News Feed

    http://cnnworldlive.cnn.com/Event/Oscar_Pistorius_trial_4

    Trial Video Archive:

    http://www.wildabouttrial.com/one_off/oscar-pistorius-trial-archive/


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  2. bessie

    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Join us here to follow the trial, 10 March 2014.
     
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    I'm confused. That's not what you said.

    ???
     
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    Normally the trial has been starting at around 2:30AM EST.
    Not sure if other countries use DST.
    Will our DST time change that happened this weekend affect that?
     
  5. lisasalinger

    lisasalinger Juror13

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    I don't think he planted that tweet. I think he wrote it and meant it. Here is my take on Oscar. This is 100% pure speculation on my behalf after everything I've read and seen about him thus far:

    Oscar overcame difficult adversity as a very young child and didn't just adapt to life, he set the bar extremely high for himself early on. Every day is a constant grind to do better, be better, win, win, win. And he attained tremendous success, fame and wealth from his efforts. He inspired people all over the world and now had new bars that had been set for him, as all athletes have to live up to. These grinds do not come without some struggles or downfalls. How many times have we seen it before - successful, famous athletes beating their wives, killing their wives, killing other people, killing themselves. These type of super star athletes live in a world very different than the average person.

    I think that Oscar may have a serious issue with handling situations that don't go his way. In order to attain all that he has, he has to be focused on himself 100% of the time which makes him selfish. Everything has to be about what he needs, when he needs it. I get the sense that he's an entitled person who thinks he can pretty much do whatever he wants most of the time because of who he is.

    He let his buddy, Darren, take the rap for him when the gun went off by accident in the restaurant. Whether he asked him to or not, he let him take the rap. That shows that he is more concerned about his image than doing the right thing, at the expense of a friend. That testimony in court wasn't so much for me whether or not the gun going off was an accident. It surely seems like it was. The message I got from that was his lack of accountability and entitlement, and lack of concern for his friend.

    Then the shooting out of the car window. Of course that's reckless, but for me it's not so much about that either... it's that Oscar shot that gun because he felt like doing it. He knew it was wrong and dangerous, but he did it anyway.

    If we believe Samantha's testimony, he also threatened somebody in car that was following him with his gun. He was not going to allow anybody to intimidate him. I don't think he was protecting Samantha. I think it was a macho F U buddy type of move.

    As his defense has portrayed in court, even though Oscar has moved mountains to not let his disability run his life, he still obviously does have vulnerabilities and with those vulnerabilities, incredible fears. I don't doubt this. He probably is more scared than the average person. But I tend to think that Oscar's way of dealing with those fears is hiding behind guns which give him power, and fast cars and fast friends... things that give him a rush and make him feel strong.

    With all that said, for everybody that knew him and are shocked that he could have done something like this, I can understand how they feel. He probably was also very sweet, charming and fun at times too. He clearly cared about his fans and seemed to be very generous with them. I'm sure he had many good qualities.

    People are not black and white. They can have wonderful characteristics and they can have terrible demons. Some people let those demons get the best of them.

    I do believe that Oscar has enough fire inside of him to let an argument get the best of him and use that trusty old gun that seems to be glued to his hip at all times. He has proven in the past that he's not afraid to wave it around or use it when he needs to. I think there was a terrible disagreement going on with him and Reeva that night. Hopefully we gain some insight from data on the phones or other witnesses yet to come. I think things just blew up and he lost it. But Oscar being Oscar, no way was he going to own up and take the rap. I think once again, he went in to cover up mode. Using every one of his resources around him to make this go away.

    These are just my two cents as to how this could have all happened and who I think Oscar may be. Totally my own thoughts, not based in any fact whatsoever. Just my Dr. Phil moment.
     
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    Yes, it will now be an hour later for us in the US.
     
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    If it's to begin at 9:30 SA time today then that is 3:30 EST. Either the time change affected the start time or they're starting later today. Unless whoever posted the 9:30 start time was wrong. SA does not do DST
     
  9. minor4th

    minor4th Verified Attorney

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    I probably misspoke, but that is what I meant - that he was not wearing his protsthetics
     
  10. lisasalinger

    lisasalinger Juror13

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    Luckily I still have an episode of Vampire Diaries to catch up on while I wait :)
     
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    Ok, sorry I didn't realize! I didn't know if you were mistaken or I was or if it was just a miscommunication. Carry on!:seeya:
     
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    I'm quite the insomniac so I've got time lol. I'll probably watch a little TV or surf until then. I'm sure I'll crash at some point.
     
  14. Trooper

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    Wherever you are in the world, at this moment.. ( check the time stamp on my post) the trial will begin today in approx. 45 minutes... one side wants to start 30 mins early. I don't know if that has been agreed to. but either way.. 45 mins
     
  15. bessie

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    I understand. Apparently, WAT did not allow for the change when they posted the time of their site the other day.

    "Resuming Monday at 2:30am ET"

    http://www.wildabouttrial.com/one_off/oscar-pistorius-trial-live-stream/
     
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    Nel said "Mondays" have a character of their own, which was why he wanted to start @ 10:00, instead of the usual time of 9:30.
     
  17. Trooper

    Trooper Well-Known Member

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    From Lisa Salinger..

    What do you guys make of Nel saying that today's testimony will "have a character of its own". And he wanted an extra 30 minutes in the morning before start time (which was denied).


    if it has been denied... on my news here it say not so, it will start in 1 hour and 15 mins from right now.. wherever you are in the world.

    Lisa.. I am hopiingggggggg it will be Darrin Fresco. the gun happy cousin and all round punky guy...
     
  18. minor4th

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    I think he wanted to sleep in!
     
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    lisasalinger Juror13

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    That would make more sense. I think we (and the judge) may have misunderstood him because even the Judge was kind of like.. what?

    It would be weird to taunt the court with your upcoming evidence.
     
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