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Oscar Pistorius: South Africa gears up for its 'trial of the century'
(CNN) -- He was one of South Africa's favorite sons, an amputee track star who defied all the odds and sprinted into the hearts of millions during the 2012 Summer Olympics in London. She was a staggering beauty with the brains to match, a law graduate and model whose star was on the rise.
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Whoo Hoo, I've never been first before. Greetings from the beautiful sunny, warm, Blue Mountains of Sydney.
Good morning all!
Managed to get myself barred from the Justice Seekers - Reeva Steenkamp page on Facebook for trying to defend her parents decision to not speak in court. It amazes me people think that people can make comments like that on a page that is supposed to be in her memory.
Anyway, help yourself to the breakfast buffet
Isn't it snowing? I'm from Lithgow and have been bombarded with pics from friends and rellies of their white backyards. Anyway good morning all from a not so sunny Balkans. Jilly - the below is my response to your question re the Dershowitz article - I replied to you and then the thread was immediately closed!
I'm not agreeing with Dershowitz - my point was it seems he is wrong on SA law. All along legal experts from there have been saying that even if OP didn't know it was her behind the door he could still be found guilty of murder (eventualis) if the court accepted he had intent to kill the 'intruder'. Maybe Dershowitz is thinking along US lines but in SA you can't just shoot someone even if they are an intruder in your home so I don't know why he states 'if OP didn't know it was RS than it's innocent self-defence' as that's not necessarily the case. I think he's just a big name American lawyer who wanted to have his two-bobs worth and commented without really knowing the law in the jurisdiction he was talking about.
The PT did enough to convince me when you look at the evidence in totality (earwitnesses, stomach contents and other pathology aspects, ballistics, crime scene photos, defendent's lies) but I guess if you pick those apart one by one (or in the judge's case seemingly ignore the 'tricky' ones) and add to that the 'beyond reasonable doubt' aspect then maybe they didn't. Most legal analysts seemed to think they hadn't for premeditated but had done way enough for dolus eventualis. So I cannot understand a ruling that says an experienced gun owner who knew all the laws relating to his gun use and still fired four black talons bullets into a tiny space could not have known he would likely kill the person in that space, making him guilty of shooting with intent to kill. All three of the four that hit her could have been fatal and IMO there is no doubt whatsoever that he knew that would be the result.
Barry and June Steenkamp have arrived at court.
Wednesday was an emotional day for them as Reeva's cousin, Kim Martin, gave the court details of how they grew up together.
Martin said that Reeva's dad would have liked to be on the stand but it would have been too hard for him.
During much of her testimony, Barry was in tears as June squeezed his shoulder in a comforting grasp
A white Toyota 4x4 pulls up outside the high court, Pistorius steps out and strides into the court building, sans bodyguards.
Hi Lithgow, I guessed you were from there. It was snowing in Blackheath. It was several inches thick and looked beautiful. I'm further down the mountains, on the Sydney side of Springwood ... bushfire territory.
Plain bread and cheese today from me. Very nice bread and cheese though.
The shield is up on both of these.
Good morning from Germany at 09:13am!
My 2. coffee is already in a cup and my cigarettes also are nearby, important for standing the court day. :smile:
ETA: Medicine against hypertension already thrown in.
(The computer I type on is telling me this thread is closed, that's why I did that).
So sorry I was supposed to open the thread but I was tied up doing something else.
All I can do is beg for your forgiveness
June Steenkamp is said to have "warmly" greeted the mother of Pistorius's ex-girlfriend Sam Taylor.
Nothing on whoop yet.
Tshego Mekgwe ‏@Tshego_Mekgwe 54s54 seconds ago
Judge Masipa make 67yrs look sexy i must say...happy birthday mama #oscartrial
G'day and greetings fellow websleuthers, :wave: , just chilling with some music on headphones atm.
Mandy Wiener ‏@MandyWiener 49s49 seconds ago
#OscarTrial Affliction clothing owner Jared Mortimer is also in court - it's thought he will testify about nightclub run in with OP.
Ah. it helps if a person presses the 'play' button when trying to listen to something.... Whoop's live. No court yet though.
Barry Bateman ‏@barrybateman 31s32 seconds ago
#OscarTrial considering Masipa’s engagements for the next three weeks, we’re looking at the sentence being handed down in November. BB
Mandy Wiener @MandyWiener
#OscarTrial Batchelor, Mortimer,Taylor have parked themselves in the very front row of the gallery. They'll want OP to see them.
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