GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #10

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  1. MomtoCrysChris

    MomtoCrysChris New Member

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    I read the affidavit and now wish I had not. While my mind knew she did not have a good end no matter how she died, to read how violent her end was is just so awful. I am sure she was terrified and that just makes it so horrible to read about. It reminds me of reading about Jessica Lunsford's last moments. She also ended up in a garbage bag, and she was still alive. I hope that Alanna did not live long enough to know all that happened to her. It really just makes me so sick and sad, that a sick person can get hold of someone's sweet child and then dispose of them as though they are garbage. TH just seems to be a huge waste of a human life in my opinion. Sounds like he was bad news from an early age, and those who came into contact with him knew to avoid him. We all know what it is like to have a child at home. If we are good, in tune parents, we tend to know their nature, their moods. I think this mom had to have known her boy was a sicko, but whether or not she could do something about it is another thing. Perhaps she was in denial. It sounds like he inserted himself into the situtation right after committing the crime. He must have known they would be coming for him, which is why he was ready for a shoot out. His mom must have known that he was a high level suspect, how could she not? What must it have been like for her the last few weeks, waiting to see if her child was a murderer? How awful for everyone involved in this terrible situation. I feel like we must all act like mother bears, watching and protecting our children at all times as though a predator may suddenly show up. The predators just seem to be everywhere these days. It is just awful.
     


  2. Brightbird

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    And sent it to someone perhaps.
     
  3. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    They may have suspected KG.
     
  4. manzana

    manzana Inactive

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    When did the distance go from .9 to 1.5 miles?

    If Alanna was last seen at 2.30 as mentioned in the SW by LG, there was plenty of time for her to make her way on her own after not being allowed to play in her friends yard. Perhaps the deed was done in a vehicle close to where she was found....still looking for a second vehicle


    Thinking out loud, most all neighborhoods have an area that is sheltered from view, despite being in plain sight.
     
  5. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Well-Known Member

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    IMO it's almost unheard of that a juvenile is a RSO. At least in NJ. Between the plea bargains and bleeding hearts ...
     
  6. Mitsana

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    Yes, I can't help but think that those pics were taken by someone else, and that person would be high on my list of potential accomplices. I agree with so many others that the body had to be moved by vehicle and LE has claimed that his car didn't budge. I have to believe that if the person providing the car was completely innocent, they would have spilled to LE as soon as they heard about the murder ("Hey, maybe there's nothing to this, but TH called me and borrowed my car to run an errand about the time of the murder," or "Gee, right around then, I helped TH dump the body of a dog in a neighborhood near his for trash pickup.").

    But that makes this case much scarier to me, and it was already plenty scary. There are so many people in the world; some of them are broken enough to commit horrible crimes like this. But not many. Were two people really actively involved in this crime? I find that extra scary. Or did someone love him enough to help cover up this type of crime? Also extra scary.

    Were there really two people who were at least fully knowledgeable about this crime, or perhaps both actively involved? Wow. Have there been any other cases with 2 perps like this?

    Maybe if TH weren't as dumb as a post, I might believe he could con someone into helping him if they didn't know the details of what he had done ("It was an accident! She was standing behind my car and I pulled out and ran her over!"). But I don't think he could pull that off (and it also assumes that a mostly-innocent helper wouldn't spill to LE after more details of the murder came out).
     
  7. jjenny

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    The suspect's house is very close to her house. I really don't think Alanna made it on her own to the body disposal site.
     
  8. snowshuze

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    I don't believe as a Mama I could ever go back to that house. EITHER Mama.
     
  9. manzana

    manzana Inactive

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    I know, two doors down, hard to imagine they only spent 30 minutes there if they felt they were indeed inside the crime scene.
     
  10. Elley Mae

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    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Police are back there today.
    I am pretty sure they were going to spend more time there yesterday but couldn't because of the shootings.
     
  12. blue22

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    If someone moves something unknown, then sees this story on the news...they might not come forward. They might freak out. Especially, if that person has previous arrests and convictions.
     
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  14. Linda7NJ

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    I think he's going to be fine, he must have somehow twisted a muscle. No visible injury. I gave him a rimadyl & put an ice bag on/ off and this morning he didn't limp at all.
    He sure did scare me!
     
  15. manzana

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    Was talking about when they originally got his DNA as well as his four dogs, that alone probably took up the 30 minutes, surely if they felt at that time that it was the crime scene, they would have spent more time on their initial visit, whether they had an actual SW which I am sure they did, not just asking permission from mom, not like this was a minor crime they were investigating.
     
  16. SCHMAE

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    It said on his fb he went to a private high school.
    Also if they know his car never LEFT, then they also know who went in and who came out. They must have seen Alanna go in the house , lured, by force or however she did and they also must have seen him come out with her later. Right?
     
  17. human

    human Well-Known Member

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    Excellent summary. Thank you.

    And thank you for letting us know that we were not crazy about the video,

    I was so sure she said 5 PM was,when she saw her. Maybe that was when they returned home? So hard to know.

    It seems to me that I always do not document the important pieces of information.

    If those cars were in the hood around 12-3, based on shadows, it seems like they would have been there at the crime.

    He took her around 2:30 and she was found around 7. Not good.
     
  18. jjenny

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    They needed probable cause to search his house. Mother likely already had a lawyer, since she refers press to her lawyer.
    They went through his trash. They couldn't do anything more legally.
     
  19. snowshuze

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    I think the surveillance systems on the two nearby houses just showed a view of the street in front of them. NOT the victim or suspect homes. Hence the stills of the two unfamiliar to the neighborhood cars.
     
  20. jjenny

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    ITA. If they had video of the child going to his house they wouldn't even need to wait for DNA tests to make an arrest.
     
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