GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #2

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  1. Salem

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    TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw Timeline and Media Links *NO DISCUSSION*
     
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  3. Hejlena

    Hejlena Former Member

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    Just chiming in on the supervision thing. I am in no way suggesting anything about the parents or other adults being involved-I just don't know enough yet. Jmo, but I don't get any hinky vibe from the dad during his brief appearance on camera.

    That said, if the timeline is as wide open as it seems to be, that concerns me. Everybody parents differently, but six is pretty small to have run of the neighborhood. My kids are eight and a half and almost seven. We live in a very safe neighborhood, know most of our neighbors in a two block radius, and live across the street from the park. My six year old is allowed to play "on the block", but I am checking every ten or fifteen minutes to ensure she is still in site. Neither one of them are allowed to knock on a friends door or go into anyone's house without telling me their plan first--no matter how well we know that person.

    As a single mom, I struggle with supervision vs freedom. I have things to do-they want to play. If I want to get groceries put away or start dinner or stare at the wall for ten minutes, yes they can play. They have both learned the hard way that they absolutely need to be where we agreed. I don't let them go to the park across the street unsupervised-unless I'm working in the front yard where I can see them-I feel there's just too much going on there for them to be unsupervised at this age.

    My eight and a half year old was allowed to walk to the library four blocks away for the first time yesterday. He has to cross one busy street with the light. First run, I let him walk, stay for half and hour, then I picked him up. We're all still alive :). Next run, he will get his books and walk home by himself. I allowed him this freedom because he has a good head on his shoulders and I feel I have taught him what he needs to know.

    Imo, kids have to have a certain amount of measured freedom--it's how their brain grows. But, if its true that this girl at five or six years old is allowed to be unsupervised for that many hours, that greatly concerns me.

    It's easy to think sometimes, after spending so much time on this site, that there is horror around every corner, but it's just not true. At the same time, an adequate amount of supervision for a child-measured in terms of their developmental capacity-is absolutely necessary.

    This poor child was dumped on the side of the road like a piece of garbage. It makes me want to scream. I hope they catch the monster who did this straight away.
     
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    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Bringing this over from the other thread. Thank you, Wondergirl!
     
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    BunnyHop Former Member

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    Supervision comes with heartfelt concern and common sense. :twocents:
     
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    I don't think there has been any information released to ascertain how long she had been missing or exactly how long the parents had been looking for her, for me to make any assumptions.

    Where and who is the perp?

    I was thinking about the red tape and if the parents used red tape for any specific purpose in their activities. Could someone else associated with those activities be responsible?
     
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    bessie Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    Tarp
    Tape
    Mention of a belt by 911 caller
    Trash bag
    Walmart bag
    Bindings on hands and feet

    Let's hope there is enough forensic material on these items to catch a monster

    My heart goes out to this baby girl's family, her community, and to the children who will not be able to unsee what they saw when they found her.
     
  9. Hejlena

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    Would LE bring in tracking dogs to track her movements that day?

    Also, is it common for LE to leave a search warrant receipt so visible in the car where anyone could read it like that? Seems like either a rookie mistake or a purposeful move on the part of LE.
     
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    Saginaw PD believe girl's murder is "isolated case"
    Update: Authorities offer $10K reward for information in murder of 6 year-old Saginaw girl
    Body of murdered Saginaw girl identified as 6-year-old Alanna Gallagher
    Much more at the link with video of Karl Gallagher's statement.
     
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    May Truth Prevail.

    :rockon:
     
  12. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    I'm wondering why the FBI focused on just that car. (Or was it the only one the media happened to see the warrant for?)

    I'm wondering, in any case, if it was perhaps the one parked on the street, and if it was left unlocked. Could the perp have gotten items from the car? Doesn't seem likely in broad daylight. Maybe the night before? Maybe the perp had been watching her since she was known to play alone outside?
     
  13. Hejlena

    Hejlena Former Member

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    OT AE I love the quote in your signature. Very important words, plainly stated. :)
     
  14. Donamena

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    Who lets their child play outside alone anymore?
     
  15. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    Thank you. I think it's important to approach these cases as dispassionately as possible if you really want to understand them--emotion clouds judgement, and these crimes push everyone's buttons in all kinds of ways. I myself am definitely over-involved in this one. :/
     
  16. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    I'm not a parent, so I won't get involved in the referendum on good vs. bad parenting. I assume no one is suggesting the family deserved this to happen. I recall similar criticism about Jessica Ridgeway's mom letting her daughter walk alone to school.
     
  17. matou

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    I just hate that LE stated that "everyone is a suspect" yet this is an isolated incident. The body of a child was dropped onto a residential road. That is so messed up.

    By the way the "everyone is considered a suspect" quote is GONE from CBSlocal news. It was here and now it is not: http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2013/07/03/...rl-identified-as-6-year-old-alanna-gallagher/

    I wonder what's up with that? Too terrifying for the community to make a statement like that? Does LE KNOW who the perp is? JMO
     
  18. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    Someone definitely transcribed the "everyone is a suspect" during the live event, I'm sure it's still in thread 1. And then they go on to say the family is not suspected. No idea.
     
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    Mlive is Michigan. This is Saginaw, Michigan. Not Texas.
     
  20. mistivon

    mistivon Verified Insider - Maricela Garcia

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    This has prob already been posted but jic channel 5 news just threw out a short timeline:

    5:00 last seen
    7:30 body found (wow that's fast)
    9:00 parents "call" police (per newscast)

    Sorry no link but wanted to emphasize the very tight timeline
     
  21. elmomom

    elmomom I may lean, but I sit on a fence

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    Earlier, I remember seeing a link that mentioned the size of the investigation, or how many investigators were assigned to this case. I don't remember how many LE but it seemed to be unusually large. I think that suggests LE is not sure of what they have here, or are not at all zeroed in on a theory, or a suspect. IMHO...
     
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