GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #3

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  1. bessie

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  3. Salem

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    Please continue here and review the rules in the previous post.

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  5. PlainJaneDoe

    PlainJaneDoe Verified expert in neuroscience

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    Me personally? No but this is far, far outside my area of expertise. :blushing: I just read the textbooks because I think it is so interesting how people's actions can betray their secrets and that there reliable meaningful patterns as to how that happens....it is accessible to science. Another example which is much closer to my own field is the science of micro expressions (Paul Ekman - if you remember the tv series Lie to Me). We may have a story we want to tell, but our behaviors will tell their own story. Anyway.

    I think what you said about the person being in the in-between stages could make sense. Say he has this rich fantasy life that we were talking about but for some reason hasn't acted out his fantasies until now. We could be talking about a person who is really unprepared when something happens that doesn't fit in with the fantasy. Or when it comes to needing to conceal what he has done. Whereas someone who has had more experience acting out the fantasy might find the clean-up equally irrelevant to his fantasy, but now knows from experience how to plan for it. I dunno...really speculating here. I'm just thinking that with practice people improve, and I'd guess that also goes for hiding their crimes. But of course there are experienced offenders who get caught because they did something very careless, something that at least I would think, "he should've known better."
     
  6. SapphireSteel

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    I don't think this is a serial offender either.

    I think it is an opportunistic predator who got his first chance and took it.

    The location of the body implies disorganisation, not planning.

    It also implies someone with local knowledge.

    I believe if the "fallen out" theory is accurate, the perp was in a hurry. A heck of a hurry. Maybe his wife/mother was due home and he had to hide it urgently.

    Does this argue against a large house or one with a backyard or shed? An apartment, where concealing a tiny body even for a short time, is impossible? A workplace even?

    Exactly how far did Alanna roam?
     
  7. mahmoo

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    Also, I agree with many of you that do not understand the cavalier attitude of LE that this was an "isolated" incident and really no need to worry. WTH? You have to be kidding me.
     
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    I keep asking myself the same question. May not be a socially appropriate question but I can't help it. I think it's a KEY question.
     
  9. human

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    The time of the crime seems strange to me. I have read reports that she was last seen at 4 or she was last seen at 5.

    The houses appear to be very close there. People are coming home from work. Kids are out playing.

    Then the timing of bringing the body. Early in the evening while it is still light out and people are all around.

    Makes no sense.

    It would be easy to grab a child, but that area seems so populated. It seems like it woukd be more of a luring, grooming situation, to me
     
  10. jadejazzkayla

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    It is really unbelievable.
     
  11. Dr. Know?

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    It would be great to see a case where the perp is in jail waiting to be charged for Alanna's death. Waiting for an additional test or two back. Arrested on some other crime.

    Maybe awaiting her memorial/funeral to charge someone comes to mind also?

    Wouldn't it be nice for just once, cryptic type statements from LE like to be on the look out for a red truck but no one is in danger, carry on...that one of the above would be the answer?
     
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    I'm thinking they know way more than they've indicated to the public.

    :twocents:
     
  13. mahmoo

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    I always lean heavily on that hope for every case I follow and especially for this one.
     
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    I live in Tarrant co. I just got back in town and caught up on this horrible, heartbreaking case. I'm locking my doors and not taking any chances with my kids, this scares me to death.

    I did call a tip in re: the red truck, it may be nothing but several times on trash day I have seen a red, older model truck with green and blue paint on it driving in my neighborhood. I last saw him the first week of June. I got a very good look at the driver as he was digging in my neighbors trash, I made direct eye contact with him and he just stared at me, no wave or smile. I just wish I could have seen his license plate
     
  15. floridamomma

    floridamomma "I've never let my school interfere with my educat

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    interesting, maybe it's just someone looking for "leftovers" on trash day. what time does trash run near the scene?
     
  16. Confusion

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    The one place I thought looked like it was almost made for an abduction is a playground/park on Knowles. It's only a few blocks from her home. On one side, there are trees/tall shrubs that would block the view from the street and houses along the street. From what I can see, all of the houses that would be able to see the opposite side have privacy fences. MOO
     
  17. mahmoo

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    We don't know if the red truck is an older model or a newer model. We don't even know what shade of red it is and is it a single cab or dual cab? I'm wondering if the people that saw this truck have a fairly good description of the driver?? That would help a lot.
     
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    In Texas, is it normal for people who don't know each other to wave? Where I live, we only wave at our neighbors (people who live on the same street) or if someone lets you go, you do the "thanks" wave.

    ETA: Oops, I thought you meant you saw him while he was driving. But my question still stands about whether it's normal to wave at people you don't know.
     
  19. mahmoo

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    I meant to post this earlier in one of my other posts BUT ... one thing that is bugging me A LOT is the fact that apparently neither of her siblings were out playing with her. I find that odd. I was one of four children all born within 2 years of each other and we were each others constant companions. Why was she the only child from this family out playing alone?? Makes no sense.
     
  20. Threeplus1

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    Yep! We have several trucks that come through on trash day to pick up "treasures" that people are throwing away. They take items that they might be able to repair...the neighbors all kind of expect them and set "better trash" to the side. Makes me a little nervous to think of someone going through our trash, but I don't mind them taking a beat up piece of furniture that I've replaced and goodwill won't take. You just never know though.
     
  21. ArianeEmory

    ArianeEmory I know the pieces fit

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    Opinion/theory only: she seems to come from a very "bookish" family, and somehow I get the sense she liked being alone/outdoors a lot, hence the stories about her playing outside all the time. So I picture the rest of the family being inside/reading/on the computer while she's playing outside.

    I could be projecting; I mostly liked playing alone as a kid and I spent a lot of time outdoors, up trees, etc.

    Edit: I know these anecdotal stories never really convince anyone, but at 5 and 6, the neighbor kids and I were pretty much roaming the streets in packs without oversight. It was the 70s; my folks were on drugs but the neighbors were Mormons, and both sets of parents pretty much just whistled or yelled when it was time for us to come in.
     
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