GUILTY TX - Alanna Gallagher, 6, Saginaw, 1 July 2013 - #9

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  1. Midwestmama78

    Midwestmama78 New Member

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    I think you're right.
     


  2. Dr. Know?

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    It's linked back in this discussion. I think it was the grandfather who said they wanted him to live, so they can ask why.

    ETA...oops look a few posts above. It was the grandmother.
     
  4. GingerzMomma

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    Apologies if this has already been posted, I had to run an errand......

    "The station reports investigators were at the Holder home several days after Alanna's body was found. Officers had reportedly confiscated several items believed to have been related to the case.

    Alanna's grandmother, Linda McDaniel, told the station Tuesday morning that the family had been suspicious of Holder."

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...r-texas-home-of-slain-6-year-old-report-says/
     
  5. y0ur0wner

    y0ur0wner New Member

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    If you are talking about JPS, that hospital isn't just for the uninsured.
    It is actually one of the best trauma/er facilities in Texas, if not the U.S.

    The LEO was also taken there.
     
  6. matou

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  7. Kat

    Kat Kind words do not cost much

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    Hi Human. I looked at the school listed too just now.

    As of right now I'm thinking that he attended a private school in North Hills. (North Richland Hills which is about 30ish miles from Denton TX but those areas up there are contiguous because they all share borders and you don't really pay attention when you drive from one area to another...KWIM? North Richland Hills or North Hills is about 11 miles or so from Saginaw according to google maps).

    I did a quick search and there is a good amount of private schools listed for that area so there isn't a way to determine which one he went to at this time. Or at least I can't.

    I used to live down in Central TX and when I drove back East to see family I always thought to myself---good grief Dallas is like the NYC of the South West. It is huge...kind of like driving in NYC and driving between the boroughs. Just the way I saw it in my mind. The traffic isn't as bad as NYC though! Just sharing my thoughts.
     
  8. Midwestmama78

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    How utterly sickening.
     
  9. blue22

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    Yes, you're right. JPS is a trauma hospital, and they definitely take insurance!
     
  10. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Wow. I missed all of that. I guess that's because we weren;t allowed to talk about him as a suspect but you guys are good putting all of that together.

    Oh, he knew. Once they took his DNA.

    I don't know. That is one demographic I never suspect due to the age. But these cases are changing my mind. The monster who killed Sierra was only 18 when he started prowling for victims. Scary stuff. My instinct would be they are not fully formed yet so even if they have the capability, it would start off with very sloppy and half-hearted assaults that evolve over time. Instead, these teens are going straight to murder or attempted murder.

    Thank you for that. Bumping in case anyone didn't see it.

    Proximity? Odd behavior? Couldn't say where he had been? Suspicions of neighbors? A tip?

    Bumping so I can bookmark this.

    That's beyond the pale. This is one sicko.

    No, you are right on target. The killing of Alanna fit the profile of a disorganized murder (I posted a lot about the difference, earlier). Disorganized killers are usually low intelligence, unlike organized killers. I think Sigg was mixed due to his age but on his way to some very organized, serial murders. Thank God he was caught.

    The intelligence level of a killer is supremely important because detectives can analyze a crime scene and narrow who is more likely to be suspect based on those patterns.

    Yes but it doesn;t change someone's evil heart! And some people become immune to it's effects. More commonly, people who use it a lot can become very irritable and angry when they don;t have any.

    DNA sample!!!

    Sexual assault was clear to me due to her state of undress. But abduction was not. Just because a body is found does not mean the victim was abducted in a classic abduction. Alanna could have been killed in her home and then transported. So the stats on abduction meant nothing to me until we could prove she was actually abducted. Now I know.

    Maybe they didn't clear them because they wanted to keep the suspect from realizing they were closing in. The "isolated" comment is what gets me though. That narrowed my scope for sure and it serves to make a community less guarded but a creep like this is super dangerous and surely would have killed again, IMO.

    Well, the lesson for me is not that the parents didn't do it - as many of you know, they were high on my suspect list and I think that was logical, due to stats, statements by LE, the obvious focus of LE, and statements by two neighbors, among other things, and I will continue to use logic when analyzing these cases - but the big lesson for me is I pretty much always count out teens. It is really shocking to me that teenagers are capable of abduction/murders like this, of little children, for sexual purposes. I have to reevaluate my understanding of sexual predators and age and do more research.

    My thoughts about who was likely to have done this changed recently when there wasn't an immediate arrest because if it was family they would have been so much evidence linking them. But I was certain LE was working it hard. And I am so thankful they got their perp. I just never thought it would be a "kid".

    I can't help comparing the monster next door to the beautiful boy, his same age, just around the corner, really, who will be irrevocably affected by the discovery of Alanna's little body. I want to balance the thought of such evil and cruelty with the tragedy and beauty of a kid who has the capacity to drop to his knees and cry at the sight of a dead baby. We still have hope in this world, friends.
     
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    In the video, it is stated that the FBI Safe Streets Task Force, SPD and North Texas MCIS were serving the warrant.
     
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    Yep, "classy", shows a certain mind set in my opinion.
     
  13. SCHMAE

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    Oh right Cluc. Thanks for reminding me. Hopefully they run them consecutive. But I think this discussion is for naught. I don't think he's alive.

    ETA Probably an arson charge as well? Right? So if he lives, he'll be in prison from now on or just about !
     
  14. Dr. Know?

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    I can't help thinking about how Alanna's family are doing right now. It would be an answer possibly to who murdered her but how their hearts must just be breaking right now. Too sad. Prayers for all of them.
     
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    I don't know about that school in particular but no one would drive Saginaw to Irving and back every day unless they had too. It would take more than an hour each way with traffic.


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  16. GingerzMomma

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    I believe LEO is @ Harris Methodist Fort Worth. Holder is @ JPS. In my experience, it's not uncommon to take them different places.....(would you want those families in the same ER, cafeteria, etc)?
     
  17. matou

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    Was Alanna's family home when this all went down?
     
  18. skibaboo

    skibaboo Mrs Map

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    Police took items the first time. He mist have known he was going down for days. Did he think he was too clever or was he going to have a shoot out and win or was this suicide by cop?
     
  20. hollye

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    No idea if there is a map for this case, I am only on the 5th thread. I can't seem to catch up. I am drawn to this sweet girl, as she is the same age as my daughter.

    Here is the map that I have on this case, updated with the most recent location.

    https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msi...0&ll=32.8684,-97.385752&spn=0.003861,0.004823

    Incidentally, if you go to street view on the map and look at the suspect's house, there is a white car in the driveway with 2 individuals. The drive is waving and the passenger has the door open giving the Google guys the finger. Nice!
     
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