TX TX - Alexandria Lowitzer, 16, Spring, 26 April 2010 - #2

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  1. ekardh

    ekardh Well-Known Member

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    It's part of the reason why I think the trip to the Burger Barn was simply an excuse to meet someone.
     


  2. ekardh

    ekardh Well-Known Member

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    One interesting comment I found is that "Ali was meeting someone but not for the reason you might think"

    That would seem to be ruling out a romantic tryst. What else could it be? Drugs? Police informant?

    Bear in mind, this is an unverified source.
     
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    I agree, it is sad to see her case losing interest here. But I understand how it happens, there simply isn’t anymore information to go on, nothing “new” that makes people want to continue to dig. This is a huge thread and there is lots of good information and theories out there.

    Your theory is probably one I most agree with. I believe she was doing exactly what she told her mom she was going to do and was taken without choice before she could reach the burger barn. Also agree that someone saw their opportunity to snatch her and did so...and if that’s the case, my guess is she isn’t wasn’t taken far from the area and probably wasn’t kept around for long :(

    I just hope they can bring her home someday.
     
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    I agree, it is sad to see her case losing interest here. But I understand how it happens, there simply isn’t anymore information to go on, nothing “new” that makes people want to continue to dig. This is a huge thread and there is lots of good information and theories out there.

    Your theory is probably one I most agree with. I believe she was doing exactly what she told her mom she was going to do and was taken without choice before she could reach the burger barn. Also agree that someone saw their opportunity to snatch her and did so...and if that’s the case, my guess is she isn’t wasn’t taken far from the area and probably wasn’t kept around for long :(

    I just hope they can bring her home someday.
     
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  5. Lyssav

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    I am a mother myself and I don’t view Joann as being controlling. I see that she loved her daughter and wanted to know where she was in order to keep her safe? If she were that “controlling” why did she give Ali permission to do what she wanted? When you become a parent your #1 job is to keep your children safe, maybe you don’t agree with her keeping tabs on her 16 year old daughter; but saying she was controlling makes her seem rigid....kinda abrasive y’all. she used to follow this thread..
     
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  7. ekardh

    ekardh Well-Known Member

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    You will see from my later posts that I've changed my opinion on this case. It took a little digging around and a discussion with one of Ali's old friends for me to believe that Ali wasn't going to work that day, she had arranged to meet somebody.
     
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    I’m not discrediting the “old friend” but that’s all hearsay at this point. It was said by the PI working the case that Ali was texting with someone from the Las Vegas area but they never implied that they even thought she had runaway because she left behind everything that would be important to a teenage girl...nor was it ever said that phone records showed she was actively communicating with someone at the time of her disappearance.

    While stranger abductions are the rarest type of missing children cases, I believe Ali falls into that category.

    - Stranger Kidnapping: happens primarily in outdoor locations.

    - In almost all instances, children are abducted no more than a quarter mile from their home.

    - Children are most vulnerable after school hours going to and from extracurricular activities or when parents are less likely monitoring them.

    - This accounts for 24 percent of cases.

    - It victimizes more females and ranges from school-aged children to teenagers.


    Just my opinion. And I appreciate yours. Nice getting a different perspective.
     
  9. ekardh

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    There were reports that Ali was using a friend's cellphone to contact someone, as she knew her mom was keeping her tabs on her. Personally, I take anything that comes from the family PI with a truckload of salt.

    You're welcome. I certainly don't rule out the stranger theory but like I said, from my own investigation I'm almost convinced there's more to this case than meets the eye.

    I think it would have been difficult for someone to forcibly snatch Ali. She was stocky enough to put up a fight.
     
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    Difficult for who to forcibly snatch Ali? I don’t think it would take much for a grown man to pick up a girl her size - at 5’2” 145lbs.

    Lets say she does put up a fight, she is a 16 year old girl that hasn’t been trained to fight or fight back against someone that is much bigger than her...and is probably scared out of her mind, she isn’t a match for someone hungry to do evil things.

    What about forcibly snatched at knife/gunpoint?

    Or forcibly snatched by more than one person..
     
  11. ekardh

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    She was a short and stocky girl who would've put up a struggle if someone tried to grab her. Apparently there was an attempted abduction in the area too, so hopefully Ali would've had her wits about her not to engage any strangers who pulled up.

    You're right, if they pulled out a gun then all bets are off. I don't think that's what happened though, not anymore. Like I said, I've dug into Ali's past, I know that her life wasn't the idyllic picture that's been painted. An angst-ridden teen, unhappy with her parent's divorce, talk of an older guy. Do the math.
     
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    You are correct, she would’ve put up a struggle; doesn’t mean she couldn’t be overpowered.

    I had plenty of friends that had parents that divorced - and none ever seemed to be affected the way you believe Ali was. Did it break her heart? Probably. Did it drive her to runaway and never look back? Doubt it.

    What older guy are you speaking of? Crash from the Burger Barn? He was mentioned in “The Vanished” podcast #156

    Maybe she did plan on meeting up with this older guy but I’m not convinced she calculated this plan to runaway with anyone that day. I’ve done the math, it doesn’t add up.

    If anything, I believe she was lying to her mom to meet up with someone she shouldn’t have been hanging out with and planned on going back home that day.


    I’m still confused on what your take is? Do you believe she is alive and well somewhere?
     
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    Just because many kids experience no emotional disturbance from a divorce, doesn't mean Ali was cool with it. John Lowitzer said that his relationship with his daughter was fraught after the divorce. Ali shunned him for awhile and they were only just repairing things before she vanished.

    I personally think Ali's "daddy issues" (for want of a better term) came into play with this older guy. However, I could be wrong, and it may have little bearing on the case.

    At any rate, I have never subscribed to the theory that Ali was a runaway. There's no evidence to suggest it. She wouldn't have left all her personal belongings behind when it would've only taken a minute to grab them.

    I was told from two independent sources close to Ali that there was talk of an older guy on the scene. We're actually on the same page inasmuch as I reckon she planned to meet someone that day, and used the Burger Barn as an excuse to escape her helicopter mom. An older male would certainly have more motive for foul play if it came out he was seeing a minor.
     
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    It also doesn’t mean Ali was deeply disturbed by the divorce either. So she was mad at her dad and wasn’t speaking to him? this is typical teenage girl behavior WITHOUT the talk of divorce. My guess is if she were mad at her dad about anything it would’ve been because he met up with said older guy and told him to keep away from his daughter.

    I’d definitely stop with the “daddy issues” and “helicopter mom” - while I know you aren’t trying to be insulting, it’s just....insensitive, and in my opinion isn’t a fair assumption.

    Also from what I have learned there was more than just one older guy..?
     

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