TX - Bexar Co., WhtFem UP15231, 20-35, fishhook earrings, Aug'15 - Lisa Carter

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  1. Romulus

    Romulus Active Member

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    NamUs UP 15231

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/15231
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    Unidentified White Female

    Body Condition: Not recognizable -
    Charred/burned

    Probable year of death: 2015 (hours)


    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 2
    0-35
    Approximate Height: 54
    Approximate Weight: 74
    Hair Color: Brown/Reddish brown
    Eye Color: Unknown


    Clothing & Accessories

    Clothing:
    Shirt:
    Black shirt with "....TAH Tattoo" in white letters (burned) ; Black bra size 32B-No Boundaries Brand; Black thong underwear-No Boundaries Brand.

    Footwear: nothing
    .
    Accessories:
    Broken yellow necklace; Partially melted bracelet with purple and white beads; Charred metal bracelet; Pair of fishhook-styled charred metal earrings.

    Identifiers
    Fingerprints: Fingerprint information is available elsewhere
    Dentals: Dental information is available and entered later
    DNA:
    Sample available - Not yet submitted

    Case History
    The deceased was found by a passerby lying in the middle of the roadway unresponsive and on fire.
     
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  3. Romulus

    Romulus Active Member

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    T-Shirt
     
  4. Romulus

    Romulus Active Member

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  5. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    I was looking for pics of Monica Hewitty while researching a different Jane Doe case.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11135/0

    I found them in this newsclip

    http://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/help-us-find-monica-hewitty

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    Look at the earrings in the above left pic, compared to the earrings below.

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    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/15231
    You suppose???

    Pretty close, but the finish looks different. But since the body was burnt, the earrings might have been discolored by the fire.

    She was LKA in the same county that the Jane Doe was found. (Bexar)
    Her age is right.
    Her ethnicity is right.
    The facial shape is right.
    The only problem is the timeframe (nearly 6 years).
     
  6. Owutatangledweb

    Owutatangledweb Active Member

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    I think she should be submitted.
     
  7. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    Yeah, I think you're onto something.

    I also think you should send a pointer to the pictures to Hewitty's Namus coordinator. But you've probably already done that [emoji4]


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  8. anonymess

    anonymess New Member

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    Amazing stuff, Carl! :)
     
  9. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Moderator

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    Yes, I have sent the suggested comparison to Michael Nance.
     
  10. skepticalbear

    skepticalbear New Member

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    Good work Carl, lots of similarities here.

    For what it's worth, though, I don't think the earrings are similar. I worked at a jewelry/accessory store for a few years and it looks like Monica is wearing thick hoop earrings similar to these, albeit much larger:
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    Just my two cents! I'm still interested to see what you hear back on this comparison.
     
  11. carbuff

    carbuff There but for the grace of God go I

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    They do establish that she has a similar taste in jewelry, though.
     
  12. Romulus

    Romulus Active Member

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    Ehy Carl nothing news on this case?
     
  13. jenstar

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    Hey All! Nice to see you again!
    I bought an earring and bracelet set near the jewelry department in wal-mart that's probably the same brand. I know that they're just the cheap metal earrings and bracelets because they tarnished within four hours. They had to be nickel plated metal because they hurt my ears. The only difference is that her "sun earrings" had holes in the middle, where mine are complete "suns." I want to say I bought them at the end of 2014 beginning of 2015. These things run in limited stints because Wal-Mart never seems to carry something for very long.
     
  14. Romulus

    Romulus Active Member

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    Error in her Namus profile: identified?
     
  15. watergirl62

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    Yes!
    Lisa R. Carter


    The Bexar County Medical Examiner's Office sent DNA evidence to the University of North Texas (UNT) Health Science Center in an effort to identify the woman. This week, the Bexar County Sheriff's Office received a report from UNT notifying them of an association between the remains and a woman named Lisa R. Carter. Using the information, the Bexar County Sheriff's Office was able to obtain the victim's fingerprints and positively identify Carter as the victim.

    http://foxsanantonio.com/news/local...y-was-found-burned-on-side-of-road-12-22-2016
     
  16. bflocket

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    Odd that they tried DNA but wound up using her fingerprints. I thought that they would've tried that before going through with DNA tests. And I wonder what they did to get her prints, since she was burned beyond recognition.

    And does anybody know what this means?...
    Was there something near her body that she touched? How would they know that any fingerprints on file anywhere were hers, since she was a UID that wasn't recognizable?
     
  17. bflocket

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    Nevermind... I found a story that explains it a little.

    But I still don't understand how the UID's prints were on file elsewhere unless they already knew who she was. Then she wouldn't be a UID.

    Body found burning in Southeast Bexar County last year identified
    SFGATE (San Francisco, CA)
    12/23/2016
     
  18. watergirl62

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    She may have renewed a Texas driver's license recently. Last time I did, I was fingerprinted.
     
  19. KayElJay

    KayElJay <b><span style="color:#000099;">WS Forum Moderator Moderator

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    BCSO arrests man in cold case murder
     

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