TX TX - Brandon Lawson, 26, San Angelo, 8 Aug 2013 - #5

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  1. LastHistorian

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    I'll be in San Angelo tomorrow for work. If I have time, I was going to drive out there, just to see the location, though I know this part of Texas well, and know already there's really there nothing to see. Might leave something at the roadside marker though. If I go, I'll get GPS from the cross location.
     
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  3. JenniferTx

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    That is very nice of you. Safe travels.
     
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  4. PeterJames

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    Hey Jason, yeah its him talking in the part that you can hear clearly = "..we're not talking to em..." or something along those lines but there is a recording that I posted in which I slowed down the audio just before Brandon speaks. I thought I heard a voice come through - like a whisper - and I just wanted to know if anyone could hear the whisper part and Jennifer did so that was interesting to me (that she heard the whisper voice I mean). I didn't mean that it is not Brandon making the 911 call.
     
  5. sprybug

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    Terrific, thank you so much for willing to do that. I know it's not like it's just 5 minutes down the road or anything. I grew up in a pretty rural area and the next big town over was about a 30 minute drive so I get the idea of how much of the way it is. I know it's about that (actually a little longer) to get to that point from San Angelo. I've seen a few pictures of the cross but they're always pretty close and I can't tell exactly where it is when I go and compare with street view on Google Maps. The GPS location on the poster always kind of threw me off, because the position is not even on the road. And then people will use that to say, here's where he was when he made the 911 call, and then I see other posts that show a map, that show the truck further up the road, so I have no idea personally, where his truck was actually at. I know he wasn't too far from his truck during the 911 call, and I know that on his last ping, he was much further north, closer to the Colorado River, so he traveled quite a distance from the time he called 911 to the last text message that received, which was a span of almost 30 minutes.

    I also listened to that podcast that was posted and I'm pretty sure I heard that one already posted to youtube. Perhaps it just took a little while to get it posted up on that podcast site. Glad I listened to it (again) though because it covered some points that I had questions about in my prior message, although not exactly answering them, but at least a few things were addressed. The thing I found most peculiar though is that Trucker 911 call. Watts said he knew it existed, but couldn't go into details about it for some reason. That I find very strange. My question on that is, why can't it be discussed? And if it exists, could we use a FOIA to get it? Also, I'm curious if the family ever did attempt to get the voicemails from Brandon's phone that night? They're not recorded on the phone, they are actually recorded and saved on some server. Do they still exist?
     
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  6. nannymo

    nannymo Well-Known Member

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    Google Maps

    This is about where the cross is located. You can't tell but it is at the bottom of a hill. If BL ran out of gas at the top he would have coasted to the bottom of the hill.
     
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  7. sesamestreet

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    Go look at the Brandon Lawson subreddit. Crazy stuff started yesterday. Have no idea if it’s true.
     
  8. thx4_medic_Babby

    thx4_medic_Babby The Case Isn’t about You...

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    Thanks for the heads up on this. Wow, crazy stuff if true.
     
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    Holy Smokes! Someone please screenshot all that in case it goes POOF. I know we can't bring it here but just in case there is a bit o' truth to it, it would be good to have saved... Imo
     
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  10. sprybug

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    Thanks for that, and I will be looking out for Last Historians post on it too to confirm, since he's going to be there. Yeah, your position is pretty much almost right in the middle of all the other positions I have seen. I've seen it as far north where there are those two driveways on the left side that are pretty close to each other and as far south as between where that tarped pond is and the picnic area (that's no longer there).
    And I just checked out the subreddit and holy hell. If any of that is true from CrazyGirl76, then this just added a whole new layer to this whole thing and now I FOR SURE want to hear that trucker 911 call to see if her story checks out. Apparently she made one too! I want to hear it! Now I know Watts has been taking a peak at this thread, and in the podcast said he couldn't talk about that Trucker 911 call on the podcast. Watts, have you been checking out what's being said on that subreddit and does it sound at all plausible to what she is saying? If we really want to find Brandon, we need as much info and honesty as possible.
     
  11. Jason Watts

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    Just so everyone knows this person is a troll they are however a very well thought out and planned troll but nevertheless they are still a troll I have been monitoring the subreddits and I have been looking at this person's responses and answers to questions and based on those responses and answers I have been able to determine that this person is 100% a troll
     
  12. sprybug

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    I absolutely hate it when people do this. Here we are trying to help and then someone goes off and decides to troll a very sensitive situation, distracting everyone.
     
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  13. LastHistorian

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    I parked across the highway, just a few yards past the cross on the southbound side of 277, and took a picture of Brandons Memorial. I also should point out that I'm not certain that this location is exactly where Brandon ran out of gas, only that this is where I found the cross today. Its not far from the rest area but it's on the other side of the road. I know it's not a great picture, I was limited on time pretty bad today. Also, traffic was kind of an issue...18 wheelers doing 75 mph. Not heavy but regular, so I didn't get out. I did a pin drop at that location but lost it and the screenshot I took of the pindrop (in case I lost it) doesn't have the GPS coordinates in the capture. I was able to extract the GPS coordinates from the picture I took though. 31.831522 -100.291938. Hope this helps!

    I did get a pin drop at the rest area. Desolate country out there, like a lot of west Texas, though even that has its own charm. Hard to imagine running in the night across some of that ground. Tons of pear cactus...some areas were completely full of it...very rocky and uneven. Oddly enough, there is a another cross a few miles back towards San Angelo. This one looked like a 2 or 3 inch white PVC cross attached to a fence line, with a cut metal sign next to it with the name "James" on it. Had to check twice on that because I had a little trouble finding Brandons memorial and thught that might be it. Which, btw, is in very good condition, from what I could see. Has a hard hat hanging on it, and it looks like its well attended. But it's a lonely location.

    Also drove into Bronte, which was underwhelming. I'll try and upload the pic, in case someone wants to verify the Exif.
     

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  14. sprybug

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    Thank you so much for going out and doing that. Very much appreciated it. We should probably pin your post somehow, if that's something that can be done here, for future reference, in case someone needs to know where the truck was exactly located, if they are doing their own sleuthing. It's almost exactly at the same location the last person that posted the location said it was. This verifies it. That James cross was probably someone who died in a car accident at that location. I see crosses that mark those kind of events on the side of the road quite often.
     
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    The way you describe it is the way I remember, LastHistorian. He would have had to have a compelling reason to get out of the car with:
    1. Private property - you do NOT go onto property that isn't yours, at night. Great way to get shot.
    2. Rattlesnakes. In the summer, they are rampant. They don't like being messed with.
    3. Wild boar - you do not want to cross paths with these creatures.

    on the night in question, all 3 were clear and present danger, and Brandon would have known this. Running out of gas is not a good reason on its own to take on the above 3 at the same time. Nope. He got out of the car for a reason that outweighed the 3 I listed above. Plus it was dark - really dark. And hot. It was August in Tx so it was probably 90 degrees at night. It's dry. It doesn't rain in WTX in the summer. That was a dry, hot summer.

    This is a very remote spot. I passed through there when I was a kid, a lot. Nothing there then, nothing there now.
     
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    Okay, interesting, that troll over on the subreddit (crazygirl76) just private messaged me and left this cryptic message:
    "Yes yes because he had already taken Brandon's money an left me there for them to come back an get me"
    In response of me saying that she's a troll.
    WTH is she going on about?
     
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    I don't think she knows how to use Reddit, so maybe she thought she was replying to a different comment. ?
     
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  18. LastHistorian

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    It was no problem. i wanted to get a feel for the location myself and pay my respects. As for the second cross, I agree. I see them all the time too. It just surprised me when I saw it and it was a different person, yet so close to where's Brandons was. Couldn't have been more than a mile or so away.
     
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    This is a good starting point. Now that we can pinpoint this location the map, is it possible to get the ping locations of the phone so we can pin it up on the map as well and start charting out his locations from 12:30 to 1:19?
     
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    BBM
    I agree this area is remote, but it is not without people and homes. I drive this highway all the time. He was within a couple of miles of a town with several hundred people and a 24 hour convenience store. There are probably 3-4 homes from here to the bridge over the Colorado River....which is almost dry. West Texans are usually very helpful. Brandon could have walked into town if he were able. He could have gone up to a house and hollered for help. It's not a deserted desert with absolutely nothing there. It is a busy little community.

    I just think someone got to him before he could get any help.....JMO
     
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