TX - Cash Gernon, 4, found dead in street w/multiple wounds, Dallas, 15 May 2021 #2 *ARREST*

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  1. Gemmie

    Gemmie Clam dip nose

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    Possibly but not necessarily. I just read that section of the affidavit and it says "surveillance videos" (plural). It could be someone not careful with their wording or it means more than the 1 video that we know about. I think they found evidence on the trail (blood) which is why they know about that. It doesn't take a cam to verify that Cash was taken to that trail. His fresh blood at that site could be enough.
     
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  2. Gemmie

    Gemmie Clam dip nose

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    Do you have the section of the affidavit that says exactly that? The small portion I'm looking at does not specifically state that videos show that he carried the child to the walking trail. Unfortunately I only have a small portion that was posted here earlier. It says:

    Based on the DNA test reports and the surveillance videos found during the investigation, this placed the suspect in close contact with the complainant at the time of this death. The suspect kidnapped the complainant and carried him to the public walking trail located in the 8900 block of Isom Lane. (Could just be his blood found there, doesn't mean they have a vid showing he actually walked onto/down that path)

    The suspect then carried the complainant out onto a public street where he was discovered by Witness A. Square in the 7500 block of Saddleridge Dr. (Again, it doesn't say they have that on video. but if Cash's blood was on the trail that placed him there, then his body was found on Saddleridge... that places him there. No video is required to figure that out)

    So, unless I see something from LE, or in the affidavit, that specifically says "we have XYZ 'action' on video"... then it may or may not be on video. The same goes for the people that were stating DB's DNA was found on Cash when we never saw that stated anywhere. I believe (IMHO) that they were assuming as much. Until we see something stated as fact, it's all speculation.

    And no, I do not think there was a DB impersonator, Doppelganger, etc. :) I think it was BD. I just don't know for sure if all that was caught on vid (taking him onto the trail and then walking to Saddleridge. Vid isn't needed to know that. If there IS video, all the better for the prosecutors!)

    Here is the portion of the affidavit I'm speaking about that someone so graciously posted early (sorry, don't recall who, but thank you). :)

    https://twitter.com/tanyaeiserer/status/1403400740878569477
     
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    Willow Knight Well-Known Member

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  4. Tealgrove

    Tealgrove #Where Is Summer? #Gannon Is My Hero

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    Pretty much figured this is where we would get to eventually.

    We already knew that he was being treated for some type of mental illness but I’m wondering if there is an intellectual delay as well?

    If I recall he did go to high school at one point so who knows.
     
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    Tealgrove #Where Is Summer? #Gannon Is My Hero

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    Blood evidence linked kidnapping suspect to Dallas 4-year-old’s murder, affidavit reveals

    If you read this entire article, Brown’s lawyer tells the reporter that Brown is “actually schizophrenic”.

    FOX 4 spoke to Brown’s attorney on June 1. Heath Harris claims his client is not guilty and is actually schizophrenic. He says brown had just been released from a mental health facility right before his arrest and will undergo a mental evaluation. “
     
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    MsLGinNC Well-Known Member

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    Is there a public copy of the affidavit anywhere?
     
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    MsLGinNC Well-Known Member

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    Blood evidence linked kidnapping suspect to Dallas 4-year-old’s murder, affidavit reveals

    I would much rather read the actual affidavit before I draw any conclusions of what its intended meaning is because this article is not particularly clear. From its contents, you can infer that they have videos of the whole crime.

    If anyone has a link to the affidavit, may I please have it? I would much appreciate the opportunity to read the actual text. Thanks in advance.
     
  8. helpfulcharlie

    helpfulcharlie Probably not the real Chuck Finley

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    Does this direct assertion mean that schizophrenia ia back on the table for discussion?
     
  9. Tealgrove

    Tealgrove #Where Is Summer? #Gannon Is My Hero

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    I just self reported my post and asked if we may now discuss this topic. I am sure a Mod will weigh in eventually.
     
  10. MoeInVA

    MoeInVA Well-Known Member

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    For further context the video of the interview with DB’s attorney and his exact quotes are here:

    Harris confirms Brown had been to a mental health facility but was later released.

    "Based on what I believe, I am going to be able to support this kid is schizophrenic," he said. "We want to see if this was a situation where it’s a ‘who done it?’ Or a simple question of, ‘why wasn’t this prevented?’"
    2:53 in video
    Attorney claims man accused of killing Dallas 4-year-old is schizophrenic
     
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    So DB's lawyer, who is not a mental health professional, is asserting that the man (18 year old is a man, not a kid) is schizophrenic. Lawyers are paid to assert things like that.

    Right now, DB is simply an adult man charged with a horrific and senseless murder of an innocent young boy.
     
  12. MsLGinNC

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    Attorney claims man accused of killing Dallas 4-year-old is schizophrenic

    Mr. Harris is going to trot out DB's entire medical history for his defense, and that's a fair strategy to a certain point because, yes, if DB is actually a diagnosed schizophrenic who was hospitalized and released, the system failed him, his family, Cash Gernon, and so on and so forth.

    However, if Mr. Harris is NOW going to seek a diagnosis ex post facto, that's just a super calculated move. I have no doubt, also, that judging from what he said here, Mr. Harris intends to put the parents, caretakers, etc. through the wringer to defend DB.

    The strategy, it seems, is spreading the blame and minimizing DB's responsibility.
     
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    A change from "believe" schizo to "actually" schizo?
    N.B., not discussing DB's mental health issues, just wondering about ^ change, whether it came from from reporter Peyton Yager, Fox4 or Atty Heath Harris.

    Q: In June 1 story, did reporter 'tone down' MH angle?
    Q: Were both articles from same convo btwn reporter & atty?
    Q: Was there a second convo later?
    Q: If so, did atty say "actually" schizo?
    If atty learned more during interim & said more, then why does June 11 article refer to June 1 convo w atty?

    June 1,* reporter wrote:
    "The attorney defending the man suspected in the recent kidnapping and murder of a 4-year old boy in Dallas believes his client suffers from schizophrenia." bbm

    June 11,** Fox4 spoke to Brown’s attorney on June 1, and wrote: Atty said DB is "actually schizophrenic" and had just been released from "mental health facility right before his arrest and will undergo a mental evaluation." bbm
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    * June 1. Attorney claims man accused of killing Dallas 4-year-old is schizophrenic
    ** June 11. "FOX 4 spoke to Brown’s attorney on June 1. Heath Harris claims his client is not guilty and is actually schizophrenic. He says brown had just been released from a mental health facility right before his arrest and will undergo a mental evaluation.
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    Blood evidence linked kidnapping suspect to Dallas 4-year-old’s murder, affidavit reveals
     
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  14. alwaysonmymind

    alwaysonmymind Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what this is about.
    DB has 1 capital murder charge plus 1 capital murder charge of a child under 10 years of age.
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    Dallas County Online Jail Search
     
  15. Gemmie

    Gemmie Clam dip nose

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    Looks like some changes have been made on the 12th. The one with no bail amount was on the 10th. I'll let you do all the side by side comparisons of the various forms but will post one difference that I found which was to the Election of Counsel.

    For F2175979 he was requesting the court make a determination of indigence and appoint counsel <snip> https://obpublicaccess.dallascounty...ViewDocument&overlay=Print&overrideFormat=PDF

    For F2175987 it says 'No. I do not want the court to appoint counsel for me. <snip> https://obpublicaccess.dallascounty...ViewDocument&overlay=Print&overrideFormat=PDF
     
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    MsLGinNC Well-Known Member

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    The initial capital murder charge -showing no bond- is probably a "placeholder"...something along the lines of "this is what the basic charge is but we will add the aggravating factors once we've determined and request bond accordingly".
     
  17. helpfulcharlie

    helpfulcharlie Probably not the real Chuck Finley

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    Do you think that means he's being represented pro bono for the exposure? Because most families can't afford a capital murder defense.
     
  18. Gibbo214

    Gibbo214 Former Member

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    That is the job of a defence attorney. If he did not try to get his client off or get the best deal for him, a conviction could be overturned for the reason of an inadequate defence.
     
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    Gibbo214 Former Member

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    The state pays a public defender.
     
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  20. alwaysonmymind

    alwaysonmymind Well-Known Member

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    The judge has the discretion to appoint approved private practice attorneys if he chooses to do so. And they get paid.
    Heath Harris is one of a few capital case qualified attorneys in the Dallas area.
    So, I’m not surprised the judge appointed him. moo
     
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