TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #55

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  1. imamaze

    imamaze Former Member

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    Hailey is 13 years old. She was heading to stay with a friend on Monday Dec. 27th but never made it. She is 5'1" with hazel eyes and brown hair. She also has pierced ears. She was last seen at 1804 Chestnut, wearing navy blue sweat pants, a light colored T-shirt and pink and white shoes.
    Anyone who has seen Hailey contact the Colorado City Police Dept. at 325-728-5294

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    Media Links
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    Hailey Dunn Facebook/You Tube/MM site


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    No more Topix to be linked or discussed on the Hailey Dunn Threads.

    There are too many rumors there that are not allowed here.

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    imamaze Former Member

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    Originally Posted by grandmaj
    I'm seeing questions about sleuthing. Let me try to explain.

    Persons named as a POI or Suspect are fully sleuthable.
    Minors are never sleuthable. When copying a quote from MSM we even change minor's names to initials only.
    Everyone else. You can discuss what they have said in media appearances, what the news has quoted them as saying, and their actions as reported in the news. We don't get into their personal lives, accuse them, discuss their background unless it is in MSM. Only discuss them so far as what MSM is reporting.

    I hope this helps simplify sleuthing. I don't know too many people who don't have a skeleton or two in their closet. Just because they are related to, or somehow associated to a case like this, we can't destroy their reputation. Sometimes these associates or relatives move from this category to POI. Then the rules of sleuthing change.
    If you have questions drop a Moderator a PM and then you will know you are on safe ground before posting.
    Carry ON. Hailey.
     
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    Originally posted by grandmaj:
    The moderators have talked this over. There were several of us on listening to the Radio Show with Clint D. tonight.
    We may live to regret this but, we have decided to allow this interview with a link to be discussed in the Hailey Dunn Thread upstairs.

    There are rules however.
    At no time are you to discuss those in chat on that Radio Show, identify them other than by *caller* and at no time may you sleuth the callers on that radio show even so much as saying you think it was a WS Member.

    There will be no warnings. If you chose to violate the rule above you will be on a long TO. I am closing this thread and the one upstairs. We expect everyone to Thank not only this post but the one in the Hailey thread. The threads will be closed for about five minutes for everyone to read this post.
    Use the link to the show when referring to anything on the show.
    A transcript will be great in case this show is removed in the future. The moderators would like to see any transcripts before you use them in the forum. Once we agree that they appear to be a good representation of the show we will approve them for use on the forum.

    We have all placed our trust in you to follow the rules. Please don't disappoint us.
    Thanks.......
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    Please thank this post that you understand the rules.
     
  6. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone seen a flyer or poster showing Hailey with her hair in different colors, in case someone has dyed it?

    I wrote to Clint's mom asking about this and she said it has been done already, but I can't find it. Thanks.
     
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    DEAR GOD..PLEASE BRING HAILEY HOME TO THOSE THAT LOVE HER

    Mustang Sally's prayer

    :)
     
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    I believe I saw it on one of the FB sites but I don't know which one. sorry
     
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    I cant wrap my brain around standing by the very person that has been named "Suspect" knowing that they may have harmed my child. I just couldnt do it. LE named him the #1 suspect for a reason.
    Know matter how much I loved them the doubt & suspicion would just keep nagging at me. And Id be thinking about it for more that just alittle bit.
     
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    I have to state this, these 2 ladies were so very compassionate and allowed CD and NS to speak without interruption. I was impressed with the fact they were allowed to speak, without being cut off. CD came across as very caring. You could tell that they made CD feel very comfy. and that became moreso throughout the interview. Kudos to the 2 of them that did the interview
     
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    CD said the first week they were walking everywhere in town,walking down alleys,calling her name,checking abandoned houses,walking in the little bit of wooded areas downtown,him,NS and the baby. :( CD was asked were BD and SA out looking and he said he couldn't lie,no they weren't.He said he can't understand how someone can sit on a couch comfortable watching tv waiting for thier daughter to walk in.
     
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    Is it possible that neither BD or CD are involved? Could it be only SA? Could BD's inconsistencies be the result of her having realized that she has been a negligent mother? If she has had a problem with drugs and has been negligent as a mothe, could her posturing simply be related to that?

    I've been thinking a lot about why SA would have left in the morning and gone to work and then left work to go back home...It's odd and it doesn't make any sense...Unless, something only he knew about happened to Hailey during the night/early morning hours. I now suspect that she was either unconscious or dead when he left in the morning. (Probably suffocated.) I'm not sure what could have happened but whatever it was, it could have taken place while BD was passed out or in a deep sleep. I think, without much sleep and in a panic, that he covered her up to look as though she was sleeping. I'm not sure if I believe that BD looked in on her or not but I think that SA left that morning feeling quite sure that BD would "discover" her dead in the morning before she left for work. He got himself out of there so that he would not be there when this happened. He removed himself hoping that BD would be home alone to find HD in bed, unconscious. He went to work fully expecting to hear from her! And he didn't. It sounds like he left ("quit") work at about the time that BD normally would leave home and he still had not heard from her. Sounds like his "original" plan didn't work and at that point, he changed his plan. Deciding to go back home and "clean up" what hadn't been discovered at all!

    Does this sound possible to any of you? If he and he alone is responsible for a missing HD, could this be what provoked him to go to work in the morning and then bolt right back home? To change plans and take his time to "clean up"...BD didn't notice that HD was unconscious or dead in bed?

    This is all just me thinking out loud and is my opinion only.

    MOO
     
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    He was asked about BD being given a van,he said yes,a grant,an a/c opened for her and someone paying her bills.
     
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    If you do a google search with the name Hailey Dunn and then click on images, hundreds of pictures of Hailey are shown. Maybe the picture you're looking for is there. :seeya:
     
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    Even if Billie had no knowledge of the crime that SA was guilty of-- imo, her behavior suggests that an accessory after the fact charge may be in order.

    "a person who gives assistance or comfort to someone known to be a felon or known to be sought in connection with the commission of a felony."

    moo
     
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    To who ever asked about the eyes. Its called Sanpaku eyes. basic....see the whites on the bottom means something is not right. see the whites on top then the person is a very dangerous person. Info hard to find and understand. but this is what I got of it.
    I look for it now, and when I see it, I sorta jump. The other night on NG, she had one eye that showed the white on the bottom. So she has some sort of problem. Chinese myth that is proving it self to be correct.
     
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    I would like to think that I would have the strength to stand by my husband if falsely accused of harming anyone. When it is your child that has been harmed I can only imagine it makes that burden that much heavier. But I do think people have been named a suspect in a total rush to judgment by LE in other cases, so it would not be enough by itself.

    In a case where my boyfriend, who I really haven't know that long in the big picture, who has lied and stolen from me, who has made threats against myself and my daughter, who was the last one to see my child, who my child supposedly told people she was afraid of, who lied to me the day she went missing about his whereabouts..... well that is more than I would be willing to put myself out on a limb for.

    If I project my life experiences on to Billie and the situation from where we are viewing it the *only* thing that makes sense to me is BD feels mother's guilt and wants SA to be innocent so badly she is making herself look foolish in the process.

    Guilty for bringing him into her life.
    Guilty for bringing him closer after he threatened them.
    Guilty for ignoring his lies, theft, and creepy factors.
    Guilty about the drug use that surrounded HD (which is such a common theme in so many of these cases).
    Guilty that HD told people she was uncomfortable around SA.
    Either BD ignored those concerns or HD chose comfort in others for obvious reasons.

    Being racked with guilt and a good dose of desperately needed denial on her part is the only thing I can come up with that isn't completely unflattering.
     
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    I have to say the only time tears come to my eyes and chills go through my body is when I hear Clint talk about his baby girl. And tonight was extreme tears and chills.

    Thank God for CD a TRUE Voice for Hailey!!!
    A fathers love never fails.
     
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    Maybe she realizes her "failings" as a mother and can't face them. Maybe she feels guilty for them and can't cope with them. Maybe she can't get her head around someone who she thought she loved doing something like this?

    I'm not defending her. I don't know her. I'm trying to figure out a piece of the puzzle here and there and SA's leaving in the morning and returning immediately doesn't make sense. He was obviously trying to hide something from BD...And the only elephant in the room is HD's disappearance.

    JMO
     
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    The interviewers did an excellent job. Other interviewers should use them as an example of HOW to conduct an interview, imo. ;)
    The interview was well done and conducted with much respect for Clint and Naomi.
    Prayers for Hailey.
     
  21. Pondering Mind

    Pondering Mind here a ponder, there a ponder...everywhere a ponde

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    Kind of hard for me to answer that since BD is considered 'not a POI' at this time...but I'm going to try..BBM above is sorta what my initial thought was. I'm still of the mind that while she may not be a POI in whatever happened to Hailey..she could be an unnamed POI in a cover up...As far as the WHY she would possibly try and cover up what happened..I can think of many possibilities. That's the ABSOLUTE BEST *I* personally can do in giving Billie the benefit of the doubt....<all JMO and speculation..
     
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