TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #55

Discussion in 'Hailey Dunn Reference and Timeline Forum' started by imamaze, Feb 2, 2011.

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  1. Curious Me

    Curious Me Who When Where What Why & How

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    Ah, thank you very much for the link. I understand now how strange that the dog picked up Hailey's scent there. Of course, as a parent I'd want to watch those tapes. Parents and Family can often recognize the very posture of their family member easier than LE strangers can.
     


  2. Pondering Mind

    Pondering Mind here a ponder, there a ponder...everywhere a ponde

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    That's what I thought to..kinda made me chuckle the way she said it..
     
  3. gngr~snap

    gngr~snap Verified Pediatric Nurse Georgia

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    Not sure if this is even allowed so if I don't get an answer I will know.
    How far apart were HD and her brother? I know 13-and 16? I was wanting to know like How many months... 27? 33? I'm sure their dates of birth are a violation. I am not sleuthing the brother. Just trying to place when the marriage of BD and CD occurred in the mix.
    ~if not allowed mods please delete or notify me and I will! thx
    android posted please excuse typos!
     
  4. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    I have been trying to find out more about the dogs and the source of the info
    I read in one article that LE downplayed and discounted any hits because the time span was so long after she went missing, and the dogs were DRIVEN to each motel, and did not actually track her scent trail TO the motel. [ I read that posted here but I am still looking for it again now}

    But here is what I did find ;
    http://www.kcbd.com/Global/story.asp?S=13779246

    Hailey Dunn disappeared without a trace until bloodhounds searched the area. Officials say the dogs picked up her scent near the Western Suites off Interstate 20. Even though the dogs responded strongly to the area, there was no sign of Hailey. She was last seen with her mother's boyfriend.


    Yet on January 7, http://www.examiner.com/missing-pers...polygraph-test reported:

    A scent trail that was followed by dogs led to a door of a ground-floor room at the two-level Western Suite motel that opened in July, but there the trail stopped. A search of the each hotel room produced no other evidence. Cristie Raye, manager
    of Western Suites, said police studied surveillance tapes but did not see the missing teen.

    WHERE DID THE EXAMINER GET THAT INFO?

    Billie said LE didn't tell her how far the dogs tracked Hailey in the motel. KCBD reported the dogs tracked her near the motel? Where did the Examiner get the info about the ground-floor room door?

    And on NG BD takes the story even further and makes it sound as though the dogs trailed her from Clints, to MB's and then to the motel. I think that is misleading information.
     
  5. Beyond Belief

    Beyond Belief New Member

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    Staying outside of the box the only thing I can feel sure of is that the perp had wheels and free time during the times in question.:banghead:
     
  6. Curious Me

    Curious Me Who When Where What Why & How

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    Whew, my eyes are burning and my mouse shoulder hurts. See you all tomorrow. :eek:fftobed:
     
  7. Dee10

    Dee10 Well-Known Member

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    Snip for the question & possible explanation? I totally feel for you in your situation. There are many knowledgeable people here, that missing people adults or children went missing in their towns. Many (caring) people follow multiple cases! In this case CZ, LE has named suspect, that in my experience they do not normally do until an arrest for legal reasons!!!! But they chose to do that in this case (for whatever reason).
     
  8. mmmagique

    mmmagique Deliver us from evil

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    I think it was an accident. I think PK "misspoke" or "spoke too soon" and they couldn't exactly take it back.
     
  9. Dee10

    Dee10 Well-Known Member

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    Personally, maybe if it was SA, who's to say that he wont decide that if he is going to go down, that he might as well go down in a big way (or that would be remembered)? It's not like LE is watching him around the clock.

    Snip for the question & possible explanation? I totally feel for you in your situation. There are many knowledgeable people here, that missing people adults or children went missing in their towns. Many (caring) people follow multiple cases! In this case CZ, LE has named suspect, that in my experience they do not normally do until an arrest for legal reasons!!!! But they chose to do that in this case (for whatever reason). That means lot to me & I have been around the block. I feel for you<3 truly. __________________
     
  10. Nicki077

    Nicki077 New Member

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    belimom, agreed, I also thought she was talking about NG. IMO

    I was honestly impressed with the interview tonight. IMO, for possibly the first time since Hailey went missing I felt like it was ALL about her and that's a good thing! Also, I too was impressed that the host/s let them (CD and NS) talk and truly express themselves. IMO, I think they did a great job bringing it back to being about Hailey. They personalized her (IMO) and that's exactly what I think needed to be done. I also think (and am praying) that if the MSM picks up the story it will go a long way in bringing Hailey's case back into the spotlight, since NG has not covered Hailey's case for days (if not more than a week now).

    I am praying that something good (finding Hailey or at least some good/strong leads) will be soon to follow. I just want her found so badly and the more media (both local and national) they can get is probably one of their best options, IMO...
     
  11. Wise Old Owl

    Wise Old Owl Retired WS Staff & Founding member of AFKBPOFPOPL

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    It would be really great to see Mark Lunsford come help CD. I think ML could really realte to CD and give him the support he needs.
     
  12. katydid23

    katydid23 Well-Known Member

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    I think you may be right. I don't think LE wanted him to be named publicly yet.
     
  13. gngr~snap

    gngr~snap Verified Pediatric Nurse Georgia

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    AMEN! :praying:
     
  14. Melanie

    Melanie Inactive

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    I didn't listen when it was on, as I couldn't really hear. It's midnight now, and I brought out the high def headphones. Once I got past the Krieger case (which is very intriguing by the way) - then came CD and N.

    Maybe because its dark and quiet (and I'm alone with my thoughts), but my heart really went out to the both of them. My heart is just breaking.

    -N really sounds a lot like BD. I'm now getting the feel of Colorado City speak :)
    -4000 miles on the car - endless hours looking for Hailey
    -Both not feeling well that day; slept most of the day.
    -Hailey did not come over on Monday, as just now said by N.
    -From what SA say's - Hailey was going to her dad's, then to a friends house. Hailey never made it to either place (N).
    -You could see Hailey's front door from the back door of CD's house. There is a vacant field with grass between the two residences.
    -Community of 3,000 people
    -Earring: Hailey had stayed the night Sunday. She took the earrings out because her ears were sore. She dropped them on the floor, by the couch. N only found 1 of the earrings on Monday and set it up on the shelf. DD then took it over to BD's.
    -N's relationship with Hailey - we were very close, could talk to her about boys, her favourite songs, go to fay-fay's jewelry (sp) spending over 100.00 in the store. Hailey liked to wear red and black. Went a lot of different places. Morning walks. Dollar store trips. Hang out for a few hours often playing on the PS3 or x-box, dancing while we cleaned the house (insert tear here). No fights. Sometimes she would get mad at me because she sat next to her dad, and Hailey wanted to sit next to her dad. N would move so she could sit there. She felt like (N) was taking her dad away, but yet liked them being together. The would go asteroid hunting. Outgoing family. Hailey didn't like being inside.
    -Both do not feel there's a connection between the other missing/deceased case in Texas.
    -CD: in these missing child cases, it could be a family member or friend.
    -in regards to BD's reaction to the media: BD has responded in so many different ways. She has tried to throw me under the bus. I don't know why she's come to inconclusive statements. At first I was calling the media to interview her while I pounded the pavement. He freezes up in front of the camera, so left BD with the media.
    -CD: Hailey requested to live with him - several times. CD was trying to get on his feet, a bigger house, was in the making of getting her. She's a daddy's girl, and Hailey loved me a lot more. Definitely was going to live with CD, and when she gets back, Hailey is going to live with him.
    -RE: interview BD had done. CD: it was basically given her timeline of events of what happened. She wanted to try to clear some things up. It was like a 15 minute long speech. Well, um, I kinda think she was doing it to keep the media involved, Hailey safe, exposed, and in the media. Trying to defend herself a little bit also.
    -RE: what happened to Hailey. CD: that's the question I ask myself all day, every day. That is the question right there. I haven't a clue what happened to my daughter. I really don't know what's happened. Especially that first couple days. Is this really happening. That's the question that everyone wants to know. I didn't have no gut feeling at all. I was hoping that she would be in an abandoned house somewhere, camping out. That first week was walking around town, calling her name, wooded areas, you know, the 3 of us, me, and N, and our newborn. First 2 weeks didn't have no car. BD and SA not looking for Hailey. They are not on the same page. CD frustrated because BD was on the couch waiting for Hailey to come home. Me and BD have butted heads so hard because of this. CD saw them carrying in 2 cases of beer on NYE. CD looking in alley's.
    -CD: Heard BD had a van donated to her. Hasn't spoke with her in a week. Someone told me she got a van, a grant, an account open up for her.

    Caller lines now open:

    Q. Jacksonville, Fl. I would like to tell CD and N that I am praying everyday for Hailey. I am trying to help them down here. Do you have (CD) counselors and stuff helping you guys through this. Caller wants Hailey home too - she has been part of my heart.

    A. Yes, FBI assigned a counselor to us. (inaudible) - everyday. Thank you for everything you've done.

    Q. Its really sad to see how many people are putting different members of the family. I don't know, no one really knows. Family already suffering so much - so many rumours and accusations. Family needs to come together. CD have you seeked help from a psychic?

    A. Families really need to work together on this. We need to come together and put our differences aside. We need to find Hailey. On FB psychics have been pouring in. Most of them are pointing towards abandoned houses. I've had a few people who do readings for free (10 people), and also call me. I'll listen to them, and hear what they say. He will point Hailey's angels in the direction the psychics tell him to go. No real results so far. No people trying to make money off of me.

    Q. Texas. Praying for your guys. Consumed me. Constantly on FB. Praying - hoping Hailey comes home soon. Do you know why TES has not been able to come in? Never really a concrete answer on this.

    A. I called TES about 10 after this happened and spoke to person who worked there. They had to have LE get a hold of them. Called LE - why didn't they call TES? LE said they couldn't have TES come in and cover the whole West Texas area. Tim said he was going to get involved, but didn't want anybody to know. Supposed to be there last Monday, but haven' heard. They may have come in secretly, but doesn't know if they did or not.

    Q. How do you feel about her being deemed as a runaway? Did it hamper case?

    A. It pissed me off. Totally out of her character. We lost 5 days there. The bloodhounds didn't come out until 4 days after.

    Q. Where to donate?

    A. Go to Facebook for more info (I won't post here as it's not allowed).

    Q. You've known BD for the longest time - do you feel she's holding back, deceptive? She contradicts her timeline. It appears so.

    A. Well, everyday I'm torn as to which way I'm going with this. Torn everyday, leaning towards this or that. (inaudible), didn't sleep for 3 days. BD would never hurt our baby girl. Is she hiding something, I don't know. Some of her stuff is kind of iffy. Man, she wouldn't hurt our baby girl, and I know her pretty good.

    Q. How is your son doing and how is he coping?

    A. He's doing pretty good. He had to leave the home, is with BD's brother. Right around the corner. See him every 2 days. Haven't been involved with DD because of....he's been coping good. Doing good in school, no trouble in school.

    Q. Did you see the surveillance video?

    A. It took LE 3 weeks and they let me look at the video for 3 hours. Felt pushed away, but didn't see anyone check in or check out of hotel. Family member or friend, really wanted him and BD to sit down together to find out clues. He still bugs em about it. Get a lawyer see what I could do there. 200 leads, can he see any of these leads, they said no. They keep me and BD more in the dark than anybody else. They have to find out from media. I'm not sure, but, you know, they are keeping me in the dark. It's so scary.

    Q. Any person of Interest?

    A. SA is it. In my book he was the last to see Hailey. There are leads I picked up in Odessa (150 miles away) and I went over there and talked to people who said they had seen Hailey. They called LE 20 times and never got a hold of them until that night.

    Q. Who is the other person who threatened BD and Hailey?

    A. I haven't talked to BD, all I know is what you know from right there.

    Q. What are you doing, what can we do?

    A. I'm backing up people who are searching, pray with them. I don't go out there with them. I'm following leads. Got a lead from Canada. It's so hard because I don't know if LE is following up on these leads like I do. If you want anything done right, you have to do it yourself. I'm looking outside the box. Tennessee - what's going on there. They keep me in the dark so much. I don't know what I'm doing, 100 MPH, in the dark. I don't know if I'm doing the right thing. People tell me to keep doing what I'm doing. Not getting enough results. I passed out 1000 flyers, border patrol helped me out a lot. Felt like I am giving up on the way home. I don't have my daughter, nothing. It's an indescribable feeling of hopelessness.

    CD: call 1-800-the-loss. 2 search groups: 1 group meets at 10:00 at CC 3 days a week. Hailey's Angels. Hailey's bridge, on 208 (where stuffed animals are). They meet up at 9:00. I try to meet up with each group as much as I can.

    Q. Any news on the landfill?

    A. CD: I don't know. They found something, but it has nothing to do with Hailey's case.

    FB: Help Find Hailey Dunn (another one - didn't catch).

    If you have any information, clues, go to bringthemhome.net. If you're afraid to go to LE, come to us. Let's help Clint bring his daughter home.

    Note: this is NOT a complete transcript. These are points that I noted and typed while listening. It is not verbatim. I recommend those who want to hear the entire interview please go to bringthemhome.net

    What a powerful show. My heart and prayers go out to the entire family. Thank you CD and N. Bless you both!

    Love and hugs,

    Mel
     
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    That's the thing about the internet though,on the fb sites alone,there's thousands of people,one has almost 18,000 on thiers and the sites are talking about the interview.The internet is the world at your fingertips. :) It was actually the best interview about Hailey so far and the most emotional I've heard.
     
  16. Nicki077

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    I totally agree on both of your points!!
     
  17. gngr~snap

    gngr~snap Verified Pediatric Nurse Georgia

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    mgardener/mel
    terrific post!
    ONE thing struck me!
    CD and N were BOTH feeling ill that day???
    hmm... and they did not specify symptoms much.
    N stayes on couch. CD's back was hurting.
    That bothers me a lil. HD, brother and infant OK I guess.

    ETA: did they take a bite of a poison apple?
    Not placing blame on CD or N! but very concerned MOO
    no big deal I hope!
     
  18. Melanie

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    Yes, CD's back was hurting him, and N didn't feel well. They didn't really elaborate. I thought the most important part (IMO) is they said they didn't see Hailey on Monday :(

    Thanks,

    Mel
     
  19. Melanie

    Melanie Inactive

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    Most excellent. He's also been sick and upset with her (as per his interview). While they should come together (IMO), I don't believe he's at that point right now.

    MOO

    Mel
     
  20. gngr~snap

    gngr~snap Verified Pediatric Nurse Georgia

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    And perfect timing if planned by a perp. MOO just a thought. (meaning CD and N had no knowledge)
    sleuthing only NOT starting a rumor.
     
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