TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #57

Discussion in 'Hailey Dunn Reference and Timeline Forum' started by imamaze, Feb 4, 2011.

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  1. belimom

    belimom Speak the truth even if your voice shakes~M.Kuhn

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    Okay, I found this interesting. This article is saying that even though a phone will ping when no calls are made, companies don't usually log that data into a database. They only log the data when a call is made or text sent. (ETA: So the "live" pings can be used to find a missing person, etc., but are not stored. Only calls/texts are stored. Make sense?)

    So IF this is correct, then he was using the phone while pinging off the tower in CCity:

    bbm
     


  2. LisaB

    LisaB Well-Known Member

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    In response to impatientredhead's query:
    I wonder what chainsaw he used for this particular hobby, where it was located, and where it is currently.

    With all due respect, not one of her three very specific questions is addressed in the affidavit. It mentions the chainsaw, and elaborates upon her statement that "The uncle mentioned the chainsaw issue, SAs youtube channel mentioned the deer and chainsaws before it disappeared." I don't think she had any questions about where the chainsaw statements might be found, but rather where the chainsaw itself might be found.
     
  3. Gma Kat

    Gma Kat Wantonly distributing my opinion........

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    Sorrell Skye - so sorry for what you went thru and thankful it ended with your child in your arms. My oldest went missing twice when he was small.....the first time due to a deviant step-parent, and the second time he was separated from a hiking group on his 11th birthday. I understand the terror and overwhelming need to search for them. It is not something I would wish upon anyone - and I am amazed at the reactions and behaviors of some of these parents of missing children - but like you explained earlier.....there are good reasons to not search also.
     
  4. yosande

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    One would hope that LE has requested a search warrant of his mom's and grandma's as well as Billie's property for the chainsaw.
    moo
     
  5. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    Since LE is suppose to be keeping an eye on SA, and he is at grandma's house.....
    wonder how he gets 'high' now???
    I'll never forget those videos and the boat etc.
    So wierd.........te bongs etc.
     
  6. LisaB

    LisaB Well-Known Member

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    Every time I read something to this effect, which I do whenever LE shifts the focus to another theory or Billie does something unpopular, I just want to call my boss, tell him I'm taking time off, and get my butt to Colorado City to search.

    I live 1,676 miles away and would have to sleep in my van.

    This is ridiculous.
     
  7. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Well-Known Member

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    Something seems to be happening. A lot of information/comments that has been posted over the past day or two is missing today. Facebook, and various sites that we are not allowed to link to...I'm thinking either LE or a lawyer has now come into the mix.

    JMO
     
  8. tehcloser

    tehcloser New Member

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    hmmm.....I can't imagine LE bothering with what peeps are posting on FB, unless it's the perp, lol.
     
  9. TxLady2

    TxLady2 Well-Known Member

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    I can't speak for Billie, but I will say that I don't find these statements odd or strange. If you lost a child, wouldn't you be envious of other mothers who still have theirs? Would that be so odd? I think a lot of moms don't realize how lucky they are until something happens to take a child away from them. Of course she is going to be envious seeing other daughters and moms, thinking why did it have to be her child who went missing? Not many people really appreciate what they have until it's taken away from them.

    As for the 2nd statement, I lost a beloved dog a couple years ago... for weeks and weeks, I looked for her and expected her to show up at the door. Every time I went to town shopping, I prayed that she would be home when I got back. I actually expected to see her, and my heart would fall to the pit of my stomach when she wasn't here. It took me months to realize she was never coming back. This was a DOG... not my child. So I can understand why she would believe and hope that Hailey will just show up.

    Just trying to look at this with a different perspective.
     
  10. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    somehow someone is helping perps throug the net!
    SA as access also.

    They are watching us, I am sure!
     
  11. LisaB

    LisaB Well-Known Member

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    It was stipulated in advance that she was to give a statement only and that she would not answer questions. Therefore, I thought it was odd that she did answer that before ending the "press conference".

    Consider the facts:

    - she answered a question after saying she would not, when she could have ignored it entirely.

    - she could easily have addressed it by saying she would not be answering questions, instead of answering it,

    - the question she answered was one she had good reason to WANT to avoid answering, especially with the admission that she was now "friendly" with Shawn,

    - she immediately cut the questions off and did not take even one more after answering one of the worst things she could have been asked in terms of the effect on public opinion of her.

    I have no conclusions as to why she did this, or even if it is significant. But it seems to me (that is to say, it is MY OPINION) that, at the very least, she answered truthfully although she had to know it was not going to make her popular.
     
  12. TxLady2

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    It's just my impression that she is not a suspect and never was, I could be way wrong. I am well aware of what some LE do and say in these cases, but I have a feeling that by naming Shawn a suspect early on, while leaving Billie out of the equation, they may believe that she did not actually have a hand in whatever happened, BUT she may know more than she is telling them and is trying to deflect suspicion from Shawn, for some reason.

    To me, it would seem more logical to have named BOTH of them rather than just Shawn IF they thought Billie had anything to do with the actual crime. I see no justification in allowing her to think she is in the clear while they continue to investigate Shawn, but it's possible, I guess. Since they named him a suspect so early on, they must be pretty certain he did whatever he did without Billie's help. And I just can't see Billie as being capable of deliberately hurting her daughter, but that's just my impression, I don't know her.

    I hope this helps... again, I may be guilty of being TOO logical in my thinking, and if I am wrong, I have no problem with that.
     
  13. belimom

    belimom Speak the truth even if your voice shakes~M.Kuhn

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    I cannot believe that Hailey has been missing this long. I do believe SA knows where she is. As far as Billie... :waitasec:

    I have (for the most part) believed that Billie did not participate in Hailey's disappearance. IMHO, either she is covering for SA, or she is in denial because she does not want to believe he did it and/or doesn't want to lose him.

    LE knows more than we do, and I keep going back to what Sparky said -- he did not mention CD or NS, but he did mention BD and SA:

    (yes, that is a direct quote from the news site, the way they worded it - I don't know about the extra "are" in there...)
     
  14. Soulmagent

    Soulmagent Well-Known Member

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    Me too.

    Except I would have to sleep in your van too!:crazy:
     
  15. Ellebelle

    Ellebelle New Member

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    We did ask Billie about the only named suspect in the case, Shawn Adkins, her former boyfriend.
    She said they talk regularly on the phone, she didn't elaborate past that.
    http://www.ktxs.com/news/26763608/detail.html

    This part just makes me ill. It seems BD thinks it's her game and her rules, but BD you can't have it both ways. You can't be chumming it up with the suspect in your daughter's disappearance and think it looks real to me that you ever cared enough about your daughter. If you don't care what people think, for your kids sake, at least, I wish you'd start.

    JMO
     
  16. SoSueMe

    SoSueMe Former Member

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    I was wondering if SA could have gotten a call during the time he was in CC and that prompted him to turn off his cell phone?
     
  17. tehcloser

    tehcloser New Member

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    BBM

    Frustration? Hopelessness? Desperation? Fear that she really may not be coming back? I think I kinda understand CD. He can't be still. He has to be moving and doing in times of a crisis. I'm that way. When mr.teh's heart went boom at the hospital, I could not be still, I had to walk...the kids laughed afterwards they said they bet I did 20 miles or more while he was in surgery. The hospital actually gave me a cell phone so they could call directly from the operating room...I would not touch it and I sure wasn't going into that little room they wanted to put the family in. Had I gotten still...I would have gotten ugly. CD said he was sick and worn down, he has gotten still. And he's thinking about all of the things he shouldda, wouldda, couldda.......Does that make sense?
     
  18. TGIRecovered

    TGIRecovered Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Quiche, just jumping off of your post to tell what I am seeing in the area!

    I live in the region, and I think that you would be hard pressed to find anyone who does not know that Hailey is missing. Unfortunately, everyone has also heard every ugly thing that people can dream up to gossip about.

    I bring up the subject with students at school, the checkers at Walmart, and people I know, and I have not encountered one person...not even a kid from school, who does not know about Hailey. My students are her age, and they tell me that several of their teachers and parents have also reminded them to keep any eye for mention of her on facebook and myspace...just in case she is out there or someone starts to talk.

    BD reaches far more people with the media than a person could hope to do with a flyer. Flyers are good and they are necessary, but the electronic media is absolutely indispensible in the search for a live child and the plea for witnesses or information. Not putting down anyone who does flyers or searches!

    I would make the choice to use the media to the fullest to find my child. Others might choose to walk the fields to look for a body. Both are necessary, and each person should do what they do best.

    I believe that LE has asked Billie to continue communicating with SA. Until we see LE confirm that, it will be just my opinion, and I doubt that LE will be offering any kind of information until there is an arrest.

    The fact thay they took the trouble to publicly declare Billie "Not a POI", the fact that they did not also take that opportunity to say the same of Clint or anyone else tells me something as well. :twocents: LE in this case has been very lacking in the area of information released to the public...they don't want to tell us anything, but they made a special effort to try to stem the tide of suspicion about Billie by telling us that she is no longer a POI.

    We have one suspect. We have one cleared of being among the POI's. We have "other POI's" who could be relatives, friends , enemies, associates or strangers. We have interviews by parents, friends and searchers. We have pleny to investigate without the other noise.

    Moo on everything!:seeya:
     
  19. Evan's Mom

    Evan's Mom Well-Known Member

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    I noticed a lot of posts missing on other sites too.
    It seemed like it was pretty good stuff too.
     
  20. Kimster

    Kimster Former Member

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    One of the mods removed this post and some others which were a small conversation on this same topic. But I want to say something about it.

    WS is not "another board". WS is well respected for what we do here and the mods work very hard to keep it that way. There are some who want to post whatever they want to post and they go to other places on the internet. That's fine with us, as long as they are minding our rules when they are here.

    WS is not the internet police. We deal with what is going on with our website. Once in awhile something happens on another site and we might get involved, like taking information from our private forums elsewhere, but it's rare. Attacking WS openly on the internet can also result in a ban. The reason is that why in the world would you say you don't like to be a member of WS and then post on WS??? Does that make any sense? Plus, it upsets our members who are pleased as punch to be here.

    Another thing, if anyone sees a post where BD is being bashed or called names or her past is being gossiped about or she's being accused of harming Hailey, ALERT THE POST! If you decide to be an unapproved moderator on this thread, YOU will earn the TO and the mods won't even get to SEE what you're upset about.

    MODERATORS DO NOT READ EVERY POST.

    I hope that clears up a few things.
     
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