TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #57

Discussion in 'Hailey Dunn Reference and Timeline Forum' started by imamaze, Feb 4, 2011.

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  1. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    The way I read the post I responded to, I thought the poster thought that the chainsaw stuff was only on youtube. I offered the info because I happened to know it was in the affidavit, and I could quickly access it to post it.

    I was trying to be helpful, ya know?

    Sheesh.
     


  2. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    I would think that Billie was being told to communicate with SA, if LE had not made a statement more or less removing themselves from Billie's comments last week. They could have just stayed silent, if in fact they were working with her.

    I wonder if LE could have obtained a wire tap in order to listen to conversations in the home.
     
  3. Evan's Mom

    Evan's Mom Well-Known Member

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    Well dang, if y'all stop by and pick me up on the way, I'll spring for the hotel.
     
  4. belimom

    belimom Speak the truth even if your voice shakes~M.Kuhn

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    That's possible, but based on what that CNET article says (and CNET is a well-respected source in the tech world), I'm leaning more towards him having it on but just not making/receiving calls during that time, kwim?

    If the company really does not log every little ping when we're all driving around and passing towers all day, then I think they just don't have a log of tower-by-tower pings as he drove around w/o making calls....hence the "break in usage" wording in the affidavit.

    JMHO
     
  5. TGIRecovered

    TGIRecovered Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I wouldn't make you girls sleep in the van... I have room at my house an hour or so away, but I would have to tell the family you were cousins...Shhhh!
     
  6. redcat

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    Yall are all more than welcome to come and help in the search! We need to find Hailey.
     
  8. LisaB

    LisaB Well-Known Member

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    HAILEY deserves to be found. People need to keep that in mind. It almost seems spiteful to refuse to help a mother find her missing child because you do not approve of some of her choices.
     
  9. belimom

    belimom Speak the truth even if your voice shakes~M.Kuhn

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    Sorry to quote myself but I wanted to bounce off that post.

    I'm thinking the timeline went something like this:

    - SA arrives in CCity/starts making calls from 6:35 to 6:56, possibly to someone else - an accomplice? Or, it could have been BD calling/texting while she was driving to work - asking normal questions like "What are we doing for supper tonight?" "Did you make it work okay?" "Are you picking me up after work or do I need a ride?", etc. (I do think it's interesting that the calls that pinged off that tower would fit perfectly for the time that BD was in the car on the way to work: 6:30-7:00. As if, "Okay, hon, I'm at work now - gotta go" at 6:56am...(MOO). But whose phone would she have used if her phone was left at home that day?)

    - SA does something to Hailey (IMHO) after that time but does not make calls b/c he's either too busy, is with/meeting the accomplice that he may have called in my first point above, or both

    - He obviously makes calls at his mom's, but the affidavit doesn't say anything about calls after that, which I'm sure LE knows.

    - 2:40: last ping from the tower in Big Spring, while 2:16 was the text to Hailey's friend. Where was that from? Again, I'm sure LE knows. If it were from the house, then I'm assuming LE would be leaning more towards validating the sitings on Monday, 12/27. But since they're not, I'm inclined to believe that the phone ping for that text was not in CCity. MOO
     
  10. For The Kids

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    The thing is MAYBE she is reaching more people than Clint..the only problem with that is shes not doing a very good job of it and is in fact alienating the media with her behaviour so how exactly does this help Hailey? Clint would be far better than her at it..at least he comes across as honest and a sympathetic figure that people will feel sorry for and maybe want to help.
     
  11. Kimster

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    What does this mean? You lost me.
     
  12. els

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    it would make more sense to me, break in usage meaning no calls in or out then 11 calls recorded 9.38 thru 2.40. i think its all in the wording in MO. I think the 11 calls recorded is as important as the break in usage. why were ELEVEN calls logged in 5 hours? if he was meant to be at work and hadnt told anyone that he was leaving or quitting then why were there 11 calls made? its not an obscene amount, but i dont think i get or make 11 calls in a whole day let alone a few hours.

    i never thought anyone no matter how many horror films they watch would know or think about cell pings and taking out batteries. thats more silent witness/ CSI / dexter territory.
     
  13. concernedmother

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    Are all these searches being done on foot? Just wondering, no atv's horses or anything that they could cover move ground?
     
  14. Tonya3178

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    I am in Snyder and I have heard that they are using horses, ATVs and also some have gone up in helis to help find better search areas that the people on the ground may not think of. I believe (MO) that the 7wells area was searched on horse back around the 9th or so of Jan.
     
  15. TGIRecovered

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    I know that the Laura foundation or Klaas's people usen a helicopter and someone used a plane, no anymore, though. Some used horses too.

    TES has a drone with special camersa, underwater search equipment with special sonar...but they were apparently told by LE that the search area was too big. That makes no sense to me, since no underwater searches have been done at all, and they could look at private property with the drone if searchers aren't allowed in.

    MOO
     
  16. els

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    if the phone ping was not in CCity and was somewhere else, ie in big spring then surely LE would be able to bring SA in on something? i have assumed that the ping from that text is from CCity. how does it work? what evidence would they need to at least pull him in for questioning?

    TBH though, in the UK people get arrested and held for questioning on suspicion of whatever the crime if there is the tiniest sliver of evidence, so if he was over here he would have been brought in long ago. we also dont use poly's as they are not considered reliable. the only time they really get used here is on the jeremy kyle show which is like the rikki lake show i think, a daytime show that has people fighting and arguing on it over who's kid is who's or had cheated on someone else.
     
  17. Lera213

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    I have totally changed my entire look of this case recently. The one thing that has turned me is that BD is seeing SA again, and FRIENDLY I might add.

    I've been married for 30 years and love my husband dearly but if my daughter was missing, and my hub was named a suspect, no way in heck would I be talking to him, he would be out the door after I told him "Until the police has totally cleared you, I do not want to talk or see you" However not BD! My hinky meter went way off the chart when I learned she is friendly and seeing him again.

    LE said she is not a POI, but I think LE has good reason for saying that even if they know it not to be a true statement. Catch my drift?
     
  18. curiousc

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    The black truck that was parked in front of BD's that was SA's, am I right in saying that I haven't seen it parked in front of the house in a few media interviews or pictures?
     
  19. BeanE

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    That's an opinion by one poster, not a fact. All the recent articles, including interviews with the searchers, cite weather and exhaustion.

    Nowhere in any article does it say that rumors have a thing to do with the slowdown.

    So now we have a rumor that rumors are slowing the search down, started and being promulgated right here.

    Hailey deserves her own forum. At this rate, she'll not get one.

    I'm very frustrated.
     
  20. Pondering Mind

    Pondering Mind here a ponder, there a ponder...everywhere a ponde

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    I really appreciate you answering! So often I have a question like this and really, really am trying to understand a different POV, but I hesitate to ask someone that feels differently 'cause I don't want it to sound snarky...I'm just really curious, lol!

    I sometimes feel that Shawn was named a POI a little earlier than was planned, but that's total speculation on my part ..:crazy:..and I have trouble seeing Billie harming Hailey as well..unless some major change came over her...It's the possible covering up for SA that concerns me most to be honest...

    Whether we agree on some of the 'particulars' or not I just wanted to thank you again for taking the time to answer..:peace:..I would love to know how others feel as well...
     
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