TX TX - Houston, 'Swimsuit Boy' WhtMale 15-19, UP4547, Dean Corll victim, Aug'73

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  1. onceuponadecember

    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    Besides the Catalina shorts, does anyone think this boy was actually not from Texas?
     
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    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    I've narrowed down the PMI for Swimsuit Boy by information on the boat shed rental and Henley's involvement. I think this boy died between August 1970 and December 1971, due to the fact Dean had the shed rental no earlier than August 1970.
    IMO
     
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    In my best guess, I think Swimsuit Boy was probably murdered after Haney, as this is when he started digging in the back.
     
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    Good observations! I show the boat shed was rented on November 17, 1970. I’m using the info on my spreadsheet, and it’s been awhile since I did my deep dive, but I think that’s right.
     
  5. onceuponadecember

    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    I've read about WS users trying to match cases before, so I decided to give it a go myself:
    I think Swimsuit Boy could be James Stanford:
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    Here are some physical similarities:
    • Similar facial structure
    • JD was 15-19: James was 16
    • Both had brown hair
    Differences:
    • James was 6'3 and 125 lbs (I think this might be false, who is 6'3 and that thin- that makes his BMI around 15.23)
    • The distance between Missouri and Texas
    "OMG" similarities:
    • James once mentioned joining a convent in California or Texas (The trunks were from California possibly)
    • JD was originally estimated to be on the younger side of 15-17 (James fits this range perfectly!)
    (Also, that narrows Doe's death from November 17, 1970 - December 31, 1971)
     
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    The height has always threw me when trying to compare James to anyone. Seems a little tall for that age/weight, but I think it’s possible. It looks like a potential match otherwise. Is he listed as an exclusion? I seem to have locked myself out of my NamUs account...again. :rolleyes::D
     
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    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall so. I really think this could be James :)
     
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    It can’t hurt to submit!
     
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    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    So from what I have read, I send a report in on Doe Network?
     
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    I find that the most convenient, but you can call/email any of the agencies or reps for either/both cases. Here’s the form for Doe Network. Hope this helps! :)

    Potential Match Submission To Panel
     
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    onceuponadecember Well-Known Member

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    Just sent in my match! I hope for the best, as I would never want this to ever happen to any of my own students.
     
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    MadMcGoo Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Thanks for taking the time! These are horrible crimes, I’d never wish this on anyone.
     
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    Here's the definitive evidence I have pieced together here:
    • Born between 1950 and 1956
    • Died between November 17, 1970 and December 31, 1971
    • Possibly died in the winter or fall based on clothing
    • Likely slightly overweight
    • Had brown hair no longer than 7 inches
    • Likely Caucasian or Hispanic (mix?)
    • Possibly disappeared from the Houston Heights region
    • Had a mild form of spina bifida (probably unnoticed)
    • 5'2 - 5'7
    • Probably weighed 144-177 lbs
    • Shoe size about 10 - 11
    • Possible USMC connection?
    • Perfect teeth (no cavities or fillings)
    • Wore a USMC khaki shirt (grey?), multicolored swimsuit, dark blue corduroy pants size 32x30, white or tan socks, Neolite brown cowboy boots, and a wrist or ankle bracelet
     
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    I'm just baffled with this case - I think Brooks might've been involved in this case (50/50 chance), but the thought that Dean might've done some on his own really baffles me too. We know Dean has at least 28 victims, but could there be more?
     
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    I don't know where I read or heard this, but I recall reading somewhere they stopped looking for victims at one of the locations, certain there were more there. I can't remember why they stopped. Anyone else hear or read something like this?
     
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    I think it was because the count of victims had surpassed that of Juan Corona's in 1971? I think the boat shed was totally dug up (I doubt there were any more victims there), but there were most likely more than were at the beach. Joseph Lyles' body was found by accident in 1983, so it is possible that there are more (at least Mark Scott's is still most likely buried there).
     
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    Thank you. I'd heard or read somewhere they stopped looking for his victims, I just couldn't remember the context or the details, it was long ago I'd come across it.
     
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