TX TX - Houston, 'Swimsuit Boy' WhtMale 15-19, UP4547, Dean Corll victim, Aug'73

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  1. oldmaid

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    I’m trying to look at your page but it redirects to download the app. Can I see it any other way?
     


  2. TheHauntedOne

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    I'm not sure, maybe you can try going to the website and typing in my name, no spaces "DaniHunter"? Otherwise I doubt it, I only use the site to store the pics and info, so don't know it that well.
     
  3. mishbloom

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    I hop in and outta here, but I pulled up the Lt Cpl. Douglas Robert French on Ancestry. According to my (very hasty) search, he and his dad both predeceased his mom and younger brother...Randall James French. Not saying it's not an uncle or cousin. I'll see if I can find out any more relatives, if you like. Do you happen to have a DOB for Bobby?
     
  4. TheHauntedOne

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    Sadly no, that's the challenge of him being unidentified, there's no life stats to work with. One of my main goals currently is getting access to the old yearbooks of a few local schools, especially the school right near the street he was lured from.


     
  5. TheHauntedOne

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    Thank you for the work you put in...I wonder if he was related as a cousin, it would be interesting to look into Randall, maybe he liked being called Bobby? Or used a fake name if he wasn't sure of his surroundings? So many possibilities, just hoping we can narrow it down.

     
  6. TheHauntedOne

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    Not sure how many of you have a Facebook page, hoping you can view everything even if you don't. I made a page dedicated to my research on the Corll case and specifically the work to identify Swimsuit Boy and any others. So far the only information uploaded is about Swimsuit Boy, but it's got more updated information and discoveries so far. Plus images to explain aspects, since we can't add them on here. If you can't view the information, let me know.

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  7. TheHauntedOne

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    Is there any chance you can look more into Randall and the Mom? Really need to know what happened to them.

     
  8. mishbloom

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    Sorry. I haven't been online much lately.

    LCpl Douglas Robert French (1946-1966) - Find A...
    That's the corporal's gravesite with info. If you click over to his moms memorial, there's an obit with the info about predeceased husband and son...and other son, Randall James French, who I would assume is not "Bobby" French since he was still alive in 2014.
    But there seem to be a lot of Frenchs around Houston at the time, so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a cousin or other relation.
     
  9. TheHauntedOne

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    Thank you, I did notice the abundance of French's in that area... sadly that makes that haystack grow larger around the needle.


     
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  10. Billycoltrane

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    This is from Clear Creek High School, League City
     

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    annemc2 her name is Suzanne Marie Sevakis

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  12. Billycoltrane

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    Thanks and I agree about the nose. I'm not entirely convinced this is the boy we're looking for either, but he is depicted in Yearbooks 1970, 71 and 72 and the location of his school cannot be ignored. Sharon Derrick has apparently stated she believes the boy might be named French due to the envelope (obviously) and the fact that "the only outstanding missing person's reports relating to youths from the Houston area between 1970 and 1973 which fit the forensic profile of the boy, hold the surnames Harmon or French". Has anyone come across or located these missing person's reports? I've been searching and can't find them anywhere.
     
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    Thank you, I hadn't gotten to this school yet, amazing find :)
     
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    Here are the years 1970 to 1972.
     

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    Impressive work!
    I wanted to compare the many faces of “Bobby French” so I made a composite from his high school pictures to compare to the one in the KHOU.com article.
    It doesn’t say in the article but I believe that a portfolio of photos was mysteriously sent to Dr. Sharon Derrick, with a young man identified as Bobby French.
    What do you think? (Apologies for the less than stellar quality)
     

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    Yes, the envelope of pictures anonymously dropped off with the forensics unit, I took pics of them but for some reason they won't upload here.
    They are all at the bottom of this page:
    (Don't need a Facebook account to see them, just bypass when it asks you to sign in)

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    What are the classes associated with the yearbook pages? Is 1970 Freshman class?

    I find several with name who were born in Harris County and Galveston County between 1954 and 1957, but all were accounted for via marriage after 1973 (So those could not be him, if he was born in Harris or Galveston County)

    There is the possibility of someone born in a surrounding county. I can't find further records for him. His family was living in Houston in the 1960s.
     
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    If you're talking about Bobby French, can you provide the information, would be helpful to see it

     
  19. Billycoltrane

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    Yes. 1970 was his Freshman class and 1972 his Junior class. There is no further mention of this Bobby French and he does not appear in the 1973 Yearbook. If this the individual we're looking for, this would make sense. I've been through the 70, 71 and 72 yearbooks in their entirety and can find no further images of Bobby to assist with facial comparisons. I've also conducted thorough researches on "Ancestry.com" , "My Heritage.com" and "Familysearch.org" and can find no record of a "Bobby" or "Robert French" who was born during the 1950's and whose records cease on or about 1972. All of the individuals I have been able to find have lived, worked and been married beyond 1973. I have also conducted thorough researches on Newspapers.com and Newspaperarchive.com and find no record of any missing person named Bobby French. I can also find no mention of a missing "Bobby French" in the existing police files, the Houston list which I have enclosed here. All of our research depends upon the name on the envelope being correct and the envelope writer being truthful. I have seen postings on reddit claiming the images of Bobby are taken from a gay porn magazine and note that numerous magazines were seized by police during the raids of 1975. Even if the images were taken by Brooks as claimed, how to we know that the boy in the pictures gave Corll and Brooks his real name? I want so much to believe that this is our "Swimsuit Boy" but I think we need to be careful. When was the envelope delivered to Sharon Derrick? There was so much publicity after the identification of Randall Harvey in 2008 and Roy Bunton during 2011 that it would not be difficult for someone with malicious intent to set up a hoax based upon what was already known. The boy was buried beside Corll's 9th known victim, Ruben Watson/Haney who was killed in August 1971. Due to his swimsuit, Sharon Derrick tells the public it's likely the unknown boy was killed during the summer months. All a hoaxer would need to do, is obtain the images from a magazine, come up with a name and call it the "eleventh victim". The "eleventh victim" claim is particularly clever as it fits with the burial location and "summer months theory" and cannot be disproved by Henley as it occurred prior to his involvement. As the boy in the picture is unlikely to come forward, the hoaxer sends us off on a wild goose chase and the envelope becomes the "Corll equivalent" of the famous "Dear Boss letter" and "Saucy Jack letter" in the Jack the Ripper case. I don't know if the envelope is genuine or not and hope that it is. I just think we need to avoid becoming too attached to the name "Bobby French". Aside from Raymond Blackburn, all of the victims were from Texas and I'd wager that Swimsuit Boy is no different. Having said that, I recently discovered this second Bobby French in Houston (Alief Hastings High 1972 Freshman year) and will continue to search. I also reckon we start working on John Harmon who was also mentioned by Sharon Derrick and is listed as missing in the police documents.
     

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  20. Friday Fan

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    The student from Alief is probably the one that was born in an adjacent county. I found him residing in Washington state fairly recently. He does not look anything like the "Bobby French" in the picture circulating as Dean Corll's victim.

    I can't find any reference to a missing "Bobby French" anywhere. The only mention is a "tip", but there is no mention of a family correlating with any missing "Bobby French".
    It could be a hoax. The media often does not vet much of this stuff carefully and they rarely follow up on it. A few years ago, we had a small tornado and a viewer submitted a picture of a monster tornado from Kansas and the local news showed it :D
     
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