Found Deceased TX - James, 48 & Michelle Butler, 46, driving RV to Fort Lauderdale from Corpus Christi, 14 Oct 2019

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  1. CrimeDawg123

    CrimeDawg123 Well-Known Member

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    Yes I agree. Going into Mexico is a very curious choice because they will be caught so fast. There is no shortage of dumb asses. :(
     


  2. Herat

    Herat Way out West

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    Can they get an idea of his height from the photo?

    MOO
     
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    There are lots of fluorescent overhead lights at the crossings.
     
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    Herat Way out West

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    Yeah, I revised my comment after looking at the photo a little longer. Thanks
     
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    If what they wanted was the truck and the RV, I guess they thought they had to kill Michelle and James so as not to be identified by them. Presser statements alluded to perhaps the couple knew these 2 or at least were aquatinted with them, camped near them, were perhaps too trusting of them. More of a logical connection that way IMO, than a man and woman trolling the beach late at night looking for someone to rob (and kill). LE would not address whether or not there was some sort of struggle before their deaths or how they were killed.
     
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    Good clear pic of him. I hope he is caught soon. Not sure what role she plays. Such a tragic loss.
     
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    Herat Way out West

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    Did they mention what license plates the vehicles had?

    What is the Walmart comment?

    Sorry, I can’t view the press release
     
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    Nothing stated about license plate. The only comment about Walmart when reporter asked, was we can't respond as that's part of our investigation.

    That Walmart was reportedly 38 miles away. I just looked back though this thread and SMS link. Be curious to know which direction the Walmart was? On the way to the border crossing location?

    Just another missing puzzle piece to this horrendous crime. JMO
     
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    Here is a link with a written summary of presser:

    Persons of interest sought in Texas after deaths of man, woman from NH

    CASE TIMELINE:

    -- Oct. 15: Police say the couple parked their truck and camper in Texas.
    -- Oct. 21: The vehicles were seen on surveillance images crossing the southern border into Mexico.
    -- Oct. 23: Family members reported the couple missing after they missed a scheduled call.
    -- Oct. 27: The bodies of James and Michelle Butler were found buried in shallow graves on a beach in the Corpus Christi area.
     
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    So LE hasn’t disclosed much other than the photographs.

    It does seem likely these two would have stopped at Walmart in the Del Rio area to stock up. Also, very likely there would also be associated gas station footage.
     
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    Late to this case but is the woman who was beaten thought to be the woman with him? TIA
     
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    The fellow in the border crossing photo does not look at all like the husband of the missing woman. That husband has facial tatoos.

    Can’t see the woman’s face in the photo supplied.
     
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    Not stated. I'd say no since the man is not her husband. Photo of woman does not show her face however.
     
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    What were the dates of when the camper was at the campsite, but the truck wasn't? MOO
     
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    New Hampshire license plate on vehicle crossing border. Also states that it's unknown if any other people were in the truck. (Other than ppl shown in pic).

    James, Michelle Butler: NH couple dead, persons of interest identified

    The Butler's silver 2018 Chevrolet 2500 four-door pickup with New Hampshire license plates was last seen crossing the border into Mexico, Lt. David Mendoza said.
     
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    Only one date given - Oct 19, where camper was seen but not the truck. IMO that doesn't mean the camper was there the entire day or the entire time by itself. Could just be the truck was coming and going and whoever saw the camper, observed it when the truck was not there.
     
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    I have to wonder why the suspects would cross into Mexico and into a part of Mexico where there doesn't seem to be anything there. I get that they want to be as unnoticed as possible. But for them personally, I wonder if they are familiar with Mexico and feel safe there. Or did they just run there to get out of the US? Would it be possible for them to travel across Mexico and continue south into Central America? Border crossings would be in the southern end of Mexico as well, so I don't no if they could cross so easily. All MOO.
     
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    zecats Well-Known Member

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    You are correct. Only those with inside knowledge to victims or case, or family members require verification.

    Thanks for your local input. It's helpful. And welcome to Websleuths!
     
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