TX TX - Julie Moseley, 9, Mary Trlica, 17, Lisa Wilson, 14, Fort Worth, 23 Dec 1974 - #3

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  1. Cubby

    Cubby fly the W!

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    raven9860 Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Murder of a child under the age of 12 is capital murder inTX.
     
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    <modsnip - quoted post removed>
    Do you know the make and model of TT's personal vehicle? Was it a Corvair?

    I did find a post where you said that you thought TT had made some phone calls from a pay phone (while pretending to be at work). How far is Benbrook Lake from that pay phone? Could he have sunk the car and then walked to the pay phone from the lake?
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Lloyd lee Welch disposed of the Lyon sisters by burning their bodies on Taylor mountain. He actually claimed that he burned omen of the sisters and buried the other one somewhere else.
     
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    Maybe you should say, "Lloyd Lee Welch says that he disposed of . . .." I don't doubt that he participated in their abduction, but no detail of his confession should be taken at face value.
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    His father and uncle are apparently the ones who killed the girls according to his confession. Lloyd Lee Welch claimed that he disposed of their remains by burning one of the girls on Taylor mountain but he didn’t say what he did to the other. Authorities believe he buried the other girl in Washington D.C.
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    He has been charged with their murders.
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Officials hope to recover their bodies but have been unsuccessful in doing so. They found bone fragments in Taylor Mountain and have already ruled that some are animal.
     
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    <modsnip - quoted post and reference to it removed>
    It looks like Rusty is also of the same opinion, as he shared with the media:

    Divers pull car out of lake searching for clues to the 1974 disappearance of 3 girls

    So if that's the case, even though we don't know for sure which car TT was driving on that day, there must be a number of people who knew which car he had been driving, that had then disappeared. And can remember the make and model.

    ....Please tell me if I have confused myself again!
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Via Marple, I am under the impression that the theory Rusty isn't "also" of the same opinion. And what I mean by that is that he didn't come to his theory independently. He is working on FW_Cat's theory.
     
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    There have been some posts about other topics, so I'll repeat my previous questions (to FW_Cat):

    Do you know the make and model of TT's personal vehicle? Was it a Corvair?

    I did find a post where you said that you thought TT had made some phone calls from a pay phone (while pretending to be at work). How far is Benbrook Lake from that pay phone? Could he have sunk the car and then walked to the pay phone from the lake?
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    I wonder if the car lifted was his. I wonder what the models of the two other cars are.
     
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    Not to step on Cat’s toes, but the Wedgewood bowling alley was 4.5 - 5 miles from Longhorn Park, depending on the route taken. It’s been closed a long time but the address was 5251 Wonder Dr in Fort Worth, if anyone wants to Mapquest it to Longhorn Park (have to map it to Longhorn Dr instead because that park’s been closed for awhile as well).

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    Any word on why they brought up car no. 1 first? Was it on top of or in the way of car no. 2?
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    Maybe the girls are in the second car and that is why it’s so heavy and it’s why it was difficult to lift.
     
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    The weight of the skeletal remains would be neglibible. It could just be a larger vehicle, like a Chrysler Imperial or an LTD. The weight of any mud in it would also be a factor.


    How did you determine that only Rachel was in the trunk?

    Wouldn't putting all of them in the trunk have ensured that no one could escape?
     
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    Mysteries1974 Martha Jean Lambert - Missing since 1985

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    How do we even know if the girls could swim? Maybe Rachel and Lisa but what about Julie?
     
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    Kinda wondered that myself. Car #2 was upside down and buried in mud as opposed to car #1, which came right up and was on the trailer pretty quick. And car #3 is expected to fall apart when retrieved. Maybe they chose easiest first.
     
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    Humans weigh 100-200 lbs each, skeletal remains weigh very little . Cars of that vintage weigh 3000-4000 lbs. it’s probably some reason other than weight.
     
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