TX names Incels a domestic terror threat

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  1. Reasonable & Just

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    Respectfully, I don't agree with your first line - not sure that was the OP's point, but they of course can speak for themselves.
     


  2. Reasonable & Just

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    Why would that be surprising? We have all of human history to show that those who speak against inequality and injustice will be punished for it by those with power. It is only pretty recently that people felt even a little free and safe to speak against bigotry and institutionalized injustice. Ironically, this is due to the litigation and advocacy of groups like SPLC.

    They do call human traffickers out, and then some. However, this about labor, and not sexual exploitation. SPLC goes to trial in first phase of one of largest human trafficking cases in U.S. history (Not news reporting. Press release from their own website). Sex traffickers and drug dealers are committing major crimes, so presumably the government will call them out and hold them accountable. SPLC is not really not needed for that.

    As for sexism in music, maybe so. But maybe that's because other groups fought for and won Parental Advisories and airplay restrictions a long time ago.

    SPLC is currently facing its own reckoning with sexism and discrimination amongst its leadership. Every group must, as we move towards a more just society. That's progress.
     
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  3. rodneymullenmg

    rodneymullenmg \US for all, not just some

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    i mean to say no one faces prejudice and no one in this country is oppressed is just objectively wrong. And spreading false information like that is dangerous
     
  4. bwt42

    bwt42 Former Member

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    The "incels" probably feel discriminated against for not being handsome enough.
     
  5. Fairy1

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    Boo hoo.
     
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  6. bwt42

    bwt42 Former Member

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    You may think it's funny that people without "looks" encounter a lot of discrimination , hurt & avoidance. I take whatever chance I get to engage & make them feel liked.
     
  7. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    I almost wish these “incels” would not get so much attention...but it is necessary as they can be extremely dangerous, as has been shown...jmo.
     
  8. Barbieshell

    Barbieshell Always be kind folks YOLO

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    Sound like a bunch of ******* hideous misogynistic cowards :mad:, obviously unable to form regular loving relationships with women so they want to resort to rape and beating, terrorising and abusing - WTF ? :rolleyes:.........bet their mammas are proud.
     
  9. BayouBelle_LA

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    The problem I have is broad brush painting an entire group of people and labeling them as terrorists. It’s wrong. IMO
     
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  10. rodneymullenmg

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    No one is doing that
     
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  11. rodneymullenmg

    rodneymullenmg \US for all, not just some

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    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/incels-suicide-forum-woman-killed-herself

    An online suicide forum that the family of a 25-year-old womanrecently blamed for her killing herself is run by incels — or “involuntary celibates” — who own several other incel communities online, one of the founders disclosed to BuzzFeed News.....


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    “There are many many posts on the incel forum celebrating deaths of people they don't respect, namely young women,” he (a member of the forum) said.

    As in most other incel communities, women are “banned on sight, no exceptions,” on Incels.co. Several threads by members of the site celebrate women’s deaths and advocate for violence against women, who are referred to as “femoids” or “foids.”

    “If foids where [sic] being gendercided, and slaved and mass raped, I woun’t [sic] care,” one thread read.

    On another thread, about the killing of a South Carolina college student who got into a car she’d mistaken for an Uber, members called her a “dumb foid” and said the story gave them “lifefuel” — a term sometimes used by incels in response to women suffering.


    “Every time I think about femoids, specifically the ones that rejected me, I’m thrown into an uncontrollable rage,” one member wrote in a thread. “I can’t help but smile every time I hear stories of holes suffering.”

    The member then went on to call a 16-year-old boy who was found guilty of the rape and murder of a 14-year-old in the UK last year his “true hero.”
     
  12. bwt42

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    Could of fooled me.
     
  13. Fairy1

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    These guys are self-described, not labeled. They're not being painted by any brush. They are venting and spreading their hatred of women on forums all over the Internet.

    And just FYI, lots of people (both sexes) are considered to be unattractive by society's standards. By the same token, lots of people who are considered attractive on the outside are ugly on the inside. This is our world and always has been. Most folks are able to figure it out without blaming an entire segment of the population for their own shortcomings.
     
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  14. bwt42

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    Just because most folks don't speak out doesn't mean they don't blame an entire segment for what they perceive as unfairness. I didn't use shortcomings because being unattractive, too heavy, too short, baldness, acne or whatever are not shortcomings to me,
     
  15. Reasonable & Just

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    Yep. They call themselves ugly because they cannot understand why women are repelled by them. They don't understand human interaction, so it's simpler to chalk it up to "I'm not a Chad" instead of facing their inability to relate to women as individuals in caring, non-transactional ways. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but many of these guys would be considered attractive by women - if only they treated women with actual respect. But they are unwell and unable to do so.

    ETA I am curious if counseling helps at all. I knew a guy who labeled himself this way. He was deeply depressed and deeply self-absorbed. He also expressed resentment towards women for wearing revealing clothing in warmer weather. I always hoped he would get help.
     
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    I don't consider physical characteristics to be shortcomings. I do consider hatred, misogyny, sense of entitlement and violent tendencies to be shortcomings. I have always been much more attracted to a good sense of humor than anything else. But I don't see a lot of humor in these dudes.
     
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    Thanks to all for responding to my questions. What crime landed this thread in "crimes in the news"?
     
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  18. cluciano63

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    Sorry, I posted the thread...as it relates to crime and did not know where else to post it...mods can always move it, or delete it.
     
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  19. cobalt sky

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    Before we can think about where hate comes, we need to define "hate". As I said before, there are certain groups in society who label anything and anyone they don't agree with as "hate" or "hateful".

    For example, I personally believe that burning the American flag is hateful and an act of terrorism. The person who burns the American flag might view their act as an expression of dissatisfaction, or oppression, or maybe they just woke up that day and felt like it. That person might feel that even though I am offended by it, it doesn't necessarily represent hate, and it's their right as a citizen to do so.

    Who is right? Who decides whose viewpoint is correct? This is where it gets complicated.

    The OP's article associating the word "incel" and "terrorist" is over the top and reckless. Although their viewpoints can be considered vulgar and offensive, it is an irresponsible leap to label them "terrorists" just because they say things you don't like.

    Public censure is one thing. Hysteria and witch hunts are another thing altogether. Are "incels" the new "satanic cults" of the 80's and early 90's?
     
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  20. bwt42

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    I try to avoid reporting threads, but count on posters to play by the rules. Mods have a tough job & don't have time to read every thread & I hope we don't cause them more work. jmo
     
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