TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #3

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  1. dalsglen

    dalsglen Well-Known Member

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    Talk about muddying the waters!
     


  2. Lusitana

    Lusitana Well-Known Member

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    Eh, I think that news article was not very well written. The information got so confusing. Either the attorney is not a great communicator, or whoever wrote it is just not a good writer?

    To me, it looks like the Sheriff is not very convinced that this was a murder-suicide. I think Bribiescas is getting a little anxious because the paternity was brought into question, and he most likely doesn't want to be looked at as a person of interest. If paternity was being questioned around the time of this tragedy, I can see why things are getting a bit slower than everyone would like it to be.

    The thing here is, if the paternity issue is about London, Bribiescas WAS her father. He raised her, he paid child support, he had joint custody of her, etc. He was in fact her father, even if DNA says he wasn't. So, if a father is to receive any life inssurance on this poor child, it should be Bribiescas.

    Also, I think both Montez and Bribiescas are the bilogical fathers of Alexa and London, both look A LOT like their fathers.
     
  3. Synergizer Bunny

    Synergizer Bunny Well-Known Member

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    I vaguely remember this case. I never thought that it was a murder-suicide. A friend of hers collected quite a bit of money from crowd funding. She said that she was going to hire a private detective; however, I'm not sure that she did.

    Is this case closed?

    JMO.
     
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  4. Lusitana

    Lusitana Well-Known Member

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    Nope, the Sheriff doesn't want to close it yet.
     
  5. MimosaMornings

    MimosaMornings Well- Known Member

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    What if the paternity issue was regarding the son not the daughters?
     
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  6. MimosaMornings

    MimosaMornings Well- Known Member

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    What if Nichol has been pregnant at some point during their relationship and lost the baby- could the argument been over CW doubting paternity.
    Paternity can cause a deadly reaction.
    JMO
     
  7. asmi106082

    asmi106082 Well-Known Member

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    I was also thinking that maybe that night she was messaging an ex claiming that he was not, in fact, the father of one of the children. Even if she was just saying it to be spiteful and it weren’t true, it could maybe be a motive?
    Whoever she was communicating with regarding paternity became enraged and went over to annihilate the family.
    I realize this is probably a long shot. All complete conjecture on my part. Just trying to think of a way the paternity issue could be a reason they haven’t closed the criminal case. MOO.
     
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  8. MimosaMornings

    MimosaMornings Well- Known Member

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    Paternity of one of her daughters.

    Communication recovered by investigators.

    London’s family doesn’t care about the results, we just want know what it is.

    Nobody is saying London did anything wrong.

    The communication would not have been a phone message - to be recovered I’m thinking an email or text? A post from London perhaps? The word seems to point towards some type of action from London. Something that could be construed as “wrong”.
    JMO
     
  9. diggndeeperstill

    diggndeeperstill Well-Known Member

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    They didn't necessarily, it says in this article it came up in communications recovered. It said, "in the hours leading up to Olsen's and the daughters' deaths, the paternity of one of her daughters came into questions in communications recovered by investigators."

    It doesn't say son, it says daughters' and most glaringly to me it says HOURS leading up to their deaths. So, did this cause an argument? Was it a source to tease and ridicule Nichol? Or did it come up for some other reason? A health discovery that made questioning fatherhood or was a test required at some point, maybe a prior divorce or support agreement and kept as the family dark secret and then comes out to be used against her? So many possibilities. BUT, since the Person of INTEREST has been CW.....my guess is it was in an argument with him. What happened as a result is the question.
     
  10. Lusitana

    Lusitana Well-Known Member

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    Oh no, he’s an adult. I don’t think it’s about the son.

    I never thought about that. It’s possible there was a baby involved, but I think it was mentioned the paternity issues were regarding one of the girls.

    And since London’s father is the only one that seems upset, I’m gonna guess it was about London. That poor kiddo looked exactly like him though, but stranger things have happened.
     
  11. Loudestbough

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    I'm still trying to figure out why they would put out "Nobody is saying London did anything wrong." This implies London did something, and her paternity isn't an action she can take. She was 10 right? Is this just bad writing, or are we missing something?

    Did SHE question her paternity?
     
  12. Lusitana

    Lusitana Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure LE has TONS of phone data, texts on texts on texts on texts. If London heard a conversation between her mother and someone else and got it out of context, maybe she thought she heard that her father was not her father and texted a friend about it.
     
  13. al66pine

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    "Did Something." Meaning?
    @Loudestbough Yes, it's possible London -
    1. "did something" and/or
    2. questioned her paternity,
    but is there anything specific leading (you) to either thought?

    When "Bribiescas family's attorney, Joseph Hoelscher" made the "nothing wrong" remark,* maybe he was only saying -- London was not responsible for any possible 'paternity question' and not responsible for causing any of the injuries or three deaths. But he did not refer explicitly to 'paternity question.' His stmt could mean something else. my2cts.

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    * Hoelscher's comment: "London’s family doesn’t care about the results, we just want to know what it is. Nobody is saying that London did anything wrong, so we don’t have a dog in that hunt, they just want to know what happened because they need to move on with their lives." Sheriff claims Anaqua Springs victims family attorney threatens him in email Nov 24, 2020.

    "Today, sources close to the investigation told Fox San Antonio that in the hours leading up to Olsen’s and the daughters’ deaths, the paternity of one of her daughters came into question in communications recovered by investigators...."
    Anaqua Springs tragedy not a closed case Jan 4-5, 2021
     
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  14. NervousNellie

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    I found an update in this article: Anaqua Springs tragedy timeline, case still unsolved
    There's another article about this subject in the San Antonio Express, which is available with paid subscription: The father of London Sophia Bribiescas, 10, has sued the boyfriend of her late mother, Nichol Olsen, for the child's death, while accusing Olsen of the shootings.

    I guess that's at least one question answered.

    Edited to add another article I found that is interesting with regard to the Sheriff's office: A shakeup in the Bexar County Sheriff's chain of command | KTSA

    Would someone read this and let me know if you think the Sheriff's blaming this guy for not solving this case?
     
  15. elliefant

    elliefant Numpty

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    Sorry @NervousNellie , I tried the KTSA article but received Access Denied

    (PS I could read the Express article without a subscription, so maybe the site is available for a certain amount of views)
     
  16. Via Marple

    Via Marple Here to learn how devious minds work

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    Excerpt from the bolded: (I have no subscription either)

    “Wheeler knew Olsen’s behavior was escalating, was erratic and was potentially threatening and/or could lead to actual violence,” the lawsuit states.

    “Olsen obtained the gun in (the) defendant’s bedside table, in the bedroom they shared, and used it to kill herself, (London) and another child,” the suit states. “Wheeler knew the children were present and was aware that they were exposed to Olsen while she was in an inflamed and erratic emotional state and actually or potentially armed with Wheeler’s firearm.

    “Wheeler knew that (London) and the other child could not protect themselves from Olsen. Wheeler took no reasonable measures to protect the children from Olsen, who was armed with Wheeler’s gun.”
     
  17. al66pine

    al66pine Well-Known Member

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    Gun?
    @NervousNellie sbm Thx for your post w links, esp this story w timeline and quote below, prompting the question: whose gun was used in these three deaths? Has ownership been reported? Anyone? (I may read & have forgotten.) TiA.

    "2/11/20
    Family of the youngest Anaqua Springs murder victim, London Bribiescas, announced their push for 'red flag' laws on the day she would have turned 12.
    Red flag law would allow for temporary court-ordered removal of guns from people who are considered to be a danger to themselves or others.
    The Bribiescas family believes that had this legislation been used in London's case, it may have prevented the tragedy."
    bbm, from fox29 story Anaqua Springs tragedy timeline, case still unsolved Jan 10, 2021

    {{{eta: Sorry, posted Q, just after @Via Marple posted w info^. So, per lawsuit petition, Wheeler/BF's gun.}}}
     
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  18. MimosaMornings

    MimosaMornings Well- Known Member

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  19. happyday

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    I wonder why her behavior was erratic and escalating?
     
  20. diggndeeperstill

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    I think sort of... he says this I. Article. Limited fire to TOS-


    “The case was not handled to the level that I believe that it should have, especially in light of the fact that we’ve been at it for two years now,” said Salazar. He has reassigned the case to other investigators.

    “The sheriff and his chief deputy decided Friday that it would be best to cut ties with Bennett, and Bennett retired.

    “I’m a bit pigheaded. I’m very demanding to work for,”said Salazar. “I want everything done yesterday and I want it done right.”

    The sheriff also acknowledged that he may be losing another high-ranking member in his office. Assistant chief deputy Avery Walker, who heads the Adult Detention Bureau


    A shakeup in the Bexar County Sheriff's chain of command | KTSA
     

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