Found Deceased TX - PFC Vanessa Guillen, 20, Fort Hood military base, items left behind, 22 Apr 2020 *arrests* #3

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  1. Al Hoffman

    Al Hoffman For Ashley Andrews and Murray

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    I would not tell her the details either. She does not need to know that he obliterated her child's face and teeth. It is enough to know she lost her child.
     


  2. m00c0w

    m00c0w Well-Known Member

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    Exactly the type of misinformation I've been talking about.

    Remembering Vanessa Guillen

    The military called the family when they could not locate her after she did not turn up after a reasonable amount of time.

    Unless you're claiming an easily verifiable fact is a lie that goes all the way up to at least the corps level...
     
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    jondaba Former Member

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    What branch are you in?
     
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  5. jondaba

    jondaba Former Member

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    In reality, only two time periods are involved here: before a 20 year old psychopath murdered poor VG and after. Leaving out: statistics, feelings, obviousness, deductions, probabilities, logic, the experience of relatives in the Armed Forces, VG’s Mom,etc.
    What actual cold, hard tangible EVIDENCE is there that AR sexually harassed VG prior to the day he murdered her? Chapter and verse pear!
    Next: it seems settled that AR, acting alone, murdered poor VG. How does anything that happened AFTER the murder matter to Congress?
    NEXT: A black man murdered VG. Where does race prejudice against Latinas come in?
    FACTS! EVIDENCE PLEASE! No stories about relatives in Bakersfield.
     
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  6. ChitBrick

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    Do we know the details of the "new information that CA has told the authorities yet? **steps out of room slowly**
     
  7. Boxer

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    Not that I have seen. Will we ever know? The case against AR ended with his death.
    Maybe the VG family could civilly sue his estate to get more info if the investigators are not sharing with them.
     
  8. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    I'll post this - and will wait on @Seattle1 to let me know IF this is still a "go".

    Tuesday, July 14th:
    *Preliminary & Bond Hearing (@ 9am CT) - TX – Army Specialist PFC Vanessa Guillén (20)(last seen April 22, 2020, reported missing April 23, 2020, Ft. Hood military base, remains were found (June 20, 2020) in 3 shallow graves next to the Leon River in Texas & the remains were sealed in concrete; ID’d July 4, 2020) - *Cecily Anne Aguilar (22) – (Robinson’s GF) – arrested (7/1/20) & charged (7/2/20) with 2nd degree conspiracy to corruptly alter, destroy, mutilate or conceal an object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the objects integrity or availability for use in a criminal. Held without bond.
    *Aaron David Robinson (20) one of the suspects, shot himself overnight at around 1:30 a.m. Wednesday (4/22/20) after learning human remains were found. He ran out in shorts when confronted and shot himself in the head. The suspects tried to burn Guillen & evidence at the crime scene, near Leon River, which is around 26 miles from the base. Aguilar helped dismember the body.
    Robinson info, Timeline post #534 & court info from 7/2/20 reference post #536 here:
    Found Deceased - TX - PFC Vanessa Guillen, 20, Fort Hood military base, items left behind, 22 Apr 2020 *arrests* #3

    7/6/20 Update: LE moved her from Bell County jail to McLennan County jail so she could appear in Federal Court in Waco today, 7/6. Aguilar is held without bond after an initial appearance Monday morning before a federal magistrate judge. She’s charged with conspiracy to tamper with evidence with intent to impair a human corpse, according to online records. The offense carries a potential maximum sentence of 20 years in prison. A preliminary & bond hearing is scheduled for July 14. Attorney Lewis Berray Gainor was appointed to defend Aguilar.
     
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    You may be right, but I ask you: should she tell CID whatever she knows or not?
     
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    CA goes to court today!
     
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    The ignore feature is your friend. Welcome to Websleuths, socalgrl.
     
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    Vanessa's sister claims that it's not true that the army called the family to tell them she was missing. She said she was the one to call them. She and Vanessa's boyfriend had been trying to reach her all day. Her unit reported her missing the following day, on the 23rd, according to the affidavit.
     
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  15. m00c0w

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    I’ve looked a lot and can only find one place where she makes the claim that she tried to get in contact with Vanessa’s sergeant, and there’s not a lot of specifics going on there. As I stated before, it would be silly for the Army (and this is at one of the highest levels at this point) to just outright fabricate such a claim that can be easily proven or disproven.

    Her unit reported her missing to CID the next day. As I said to someone else, that doesn’t mean they weren’t trying to figure out if she was around somewhere else in the meantime. From what I can find, it certainly seems like people were looking for her and couldn’t find her. They then reached out to her emergency contact. The next morning they escalated it to law enforcement.
     
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  16. socalgrl

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    From an April 27 article,

    "Mayra Guillen said the last text conversation she had with her sister was the night before she disappeared. The pair talked about Vanessa’s plans to buy a new car, she said. However, Mayra Guillen suspected something was wrong the next day when her sister’s boyfriend said she was not answering texts or phone calls.

    “As soon as I saw the clock strike 9 p.m. I knew she wouldn’t be working from 9 a.m. until 9 p.m.,” she said. “That’s when I started getting in touch with her sergeant.”"

    Army offers $15,000 reward to help find missing Fort Hood soldier

    There's also more here about how the family started to become concerned around noon that something was wrong.

    Exclusive: Missing soldier was ‘happier than ever,’ then mysteriously vanishes, sister says as desperate search continues
     
  17. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Any news on the hearing?? TIA! :)
     
  18. gliving

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    We should start hearing news soon.

    Christina Carrega
    @ChrisCarrega


    Bond hearing expected for Cecily Ann Aguilar today (1:30 p.m. central time) in federal court. Aguilar is accused of tampering with evidence in connection to the disappearance of Fort Hood soldier #VanessaGuillen.
    6:16 AM · Jul 14, 2020·
     
  19. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    Okay - I have 9am as start time, guess that was wrong - Thanks!
     
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  20. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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