BBM:
Thanks!
Follow up question: Do you know if personnel have to show their ID each time they enter the armory, or is that not required?
No idea.MOO likely that it isn't required. An armory is often a single room with a few armorers working.
BBM:
Thanks!
Follow up question: Do you know if personnel have to show their ID each time they enter the armory, or is that not required?
BBM:I wonder if military personnel at Fort Hood that live on and off base have had any kind of restrictions placed on them due to covid-19?
Where they still allowed to come and go in all areas on the base?
Where they allowed to leave base when they were on break, at lunch etc or were there tighter restrictions during this time?
BBM:
That's a great point.
Here's what I've found so far: Fort Hood COVID-19 Information :: U.S Army Fort Hood
Also, this: III Corps and Fort Hood issues shelter-in-place orders, curfew
According to the order, no visitors are allowed in barracks or on-post housing. Visitors are defined in the order as “any person who does not normally reside in the normal place of residence of the soldier.”
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/fort-hood-vanessa-guillen-missing
SABBM:
This article is stating her barracks room key was also found in the armory room.
- Her keys, ID card, wallet, and barracks room key were all found later in the armory room that she was working in that day.
If true, then it makes it even odder that she was last seen in the parking lot outside of her barracks.
Clearly, she wasn't planning on returning to her room at that point if she left her key back at the armory.
JMO.
Last seen in the lot. By who? Doing what? Corroborated by who?
Working in the armory earlier. With who? Verifications?
She's a runner, and leggings and a t-shirt, and a lack of bulky items, doesn't seem out of place.
Is BF also stationed there?
BBM:First off yes someone would go off base with leaving their military ID behind...by accident. I could see if she was working in the armory and taken her ID out of her pocket or maybe she carries it in a small flat wallet and keeps it in her purse or backpack or something. My husband says in the Coast Guard that most of the girls he works with usually keep theirs in their pocket or purse. They have 2 different cards. One that they have to use to log into computers and one that they use to get on base or door access.
1. Her missing person photo said she
2. I can imagine someone, especially a girl, to run out to the parking lot for something or to meet someone or talk to someone and leave their car keys and ID behind. Why would you grab all your stuff if A) you were planning on coming back or B) if going AWOL you won't need your ID anymore because after that you are NOT planning on getting back on base.
A lot. If you are in uniform though, they tend to just wave you through the gate.BBM:
It's hard to believe this is a common occurrence, though.
Strictly as a point of reference, @MassGuy, as a former Marine, how many times did you forget and leave your ID behind when you went off base?
JMO.
Also, why wouldn't she be in uniform if she was "working" in the armory that day? I'd almost bet my life with her being a PFC and being on duty she would have been in uniform, especially if she worked in the armory.
But she didn't go off base. She just went to the parking lot. If she was just planning on going to the parking lot and not off base, she wouldn't need it to get back on base.BBM:
It's hard to believe this is a common occurrence, though.
Strictly as a point of reference, @MassGuy, as a former Marine, how many times did you forget and leave your ID behind when you went off base?
JMO.
A lot. If you are in uniform though, they tend to just wave you through the gate.
I think she was either not planning to leave base, or if she was planning on leaving, she didn’t intend to return.
If she was planning on going for a run or something, she may have changed to workout clothes. She disappeared around lunch time, and that’s when many people workout.
A lot. If you are in uniform though, they tend to just wave you through the gate.
I think she was either not planning to leave base, or if she was planning on leaving, she didn’t intend to return.
If she was just running on base, she might not have taken her ID. I believe they still ID everyone if she went to the gym on base though. At least they use to ID people at the gym.