TX TX - Rockdale, Wht/HispFem 542UFTX, 12-18, Spina Bifida, Nov'86

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  1. Rle7

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    The Doe Network:
    Case File 542UFTX

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/542uftx.html


    Unidentified White or Hispanic Female







    • The victim was discovered on November 4, 1986 near Rockdale, Milam County, Texas
    • Estimated Date of Death: October 25, 1986 - November 4, 1986
    • Cause of Death: Blunt trauma to back of head.
    • Moderate Decomposition - facial features indistinguishable.


    Vital Statistics






    • Estimated age: 16-25 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'2"; 90-100 lbs..
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Reddish or dark brown hair which appeared to be bleached to a reddish blonde; double pierced ears; misaligned teeth in poor condition.
    • Dentals: Available
    • Clothing/Jewelry: She was nude except for a cheap yellow metal ring on one of her fingers (it is unknown which finger).
    • DNA: Possible DNA after planned future exhumation.


    Case History
    The victim was located at 1:45pm on US 77 south of Rockdale by a telephone company repairman, in Milam County, Texas on November 4, 1986.
    Her body was lying face down, nude. She had been in the elements for possibly a week. Authorities are in the planning stages of exhuming the body to obtain the skull for a possible reconstruction and DNA submission. The body was buried 20 years ago in a cemetery in Dallas, Texas.
    No suspects or leads have ever came forward in this case.

    Map of Rockdale, Texas





    Investigators
    If you have any information about this case please contact:
    Milam County Sheriff's Office
    Investigator Greg J. Kouba
    254-697-7033
    You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

    Agency Case Number: 10,877


    NCIC Number:
    U-221806001
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case. Source Information:
    Milam County Sheriff's Office
     
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  3. Rle7

    Rle7 New Member

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    Sheriff's investigator Greg Kouba knows little about the young girl whose naked and decomposing body was found 20 years ago, dumped in a bar ditch south of Rockdale.

    But two decades and two months after the girl was murdered, Kouba said questions still abound. Who was she? Where was she from? Who killed her? More important, why?

    Kouba said he hopes DNA testing and a new forensic sketch will help investigators find the answers.

    "There is a family out there somewhere that is missing a daughter or sister," he said, explaining why the department re-opened the 20-year-old case and was pushing to identify the girl. "She deserves at least that."

    It was 20 years ago last November when a telephone repairman discovered the girl's body dumped in a grassy area along U.S. 77, less than seven miles south of Rockdale near Yegua Creek. Her body was obscured by the tall grass.

    http://www.theeagle.com/stories/010907/local_20070109004.php

    There is speculation that confessed serial killer Robert Charles Browne may have been involved.
     
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    anthrobones New Member

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    Bumping up
     
  5. zinc

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    The Doe Network: Case File 542UFTX
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/542uftx.html

    Unidentified White/Hispanic Female

    The victim was discovered on November 4, 1986 near Rockdale, Milam County, Texas
    Estimated Date of Death: October 25, 1986 - November 4, 1986
    Cause of Death: Blunt trauma to back of head.
    Partial Skeleton; Facial features indistinguishable.

    Vital Statistics
    Estimated age: 12-18 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'2"; 90-100 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Possibly of Hispanic origin, or possibly from Mexico. Reddish or dark brown hair which appeared to be bleached to a reddish blonde; double pierced ears.
    Dentals: Available: see link below for photograph. Teeth are misaligned and in extremely bad shape with no prior dental work. This may have affected her speech.
    Clothing/Jewelry: She was nude except for a cheap yellow metal ring on her left ring finger.
    Medical: Indications of spina bifida and she may have had an abnormal posture or walk.
    DNA: Pending

    Case History
    The victim was located at 1:45pm in the grass along US Highway 77, 6 7/10 miles south of Rockdale, by a telephone company repairman, in Milam County, Texas on November 4, 1986. Her body was lying face down, nude. She had been in the elements for possibly a week.
    These remains were disinterred on November 6, 2006. The jaw bone and maxilla pictured in the link below were not located in the grave. Authorities will not be able to have a 3-D facial reconstruction done without this, however the skull and the autopsy photos of the jaw and maxilla has been delivered to a forensic sketch artist who supplied the above 2-D drawing.
    No suspects or leads have ever came forward in this case.

    Investigators
    If you have any information about this case please contact:
    Milam County Sheriff's Office
    Investigator Greg J. Kouba
    254-697-7033
    You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

    Agency Case Number: 10-877

    NCIC Number:
    U-221806001
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/542uftx.html
    https://identifyus.org/cases/4234
     
  6. zinc

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    The Doe Network: Case File 634DFTX
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/634dftx.html

    Michelle Doherty Thomas
    Missing since October 5, 1985 from Alta Loma, Galveston County, Texas.
    Classification: Endangered Missing

    Vital Statistics
    Date Of Birth: November 16, 1967
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 17 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2"; 85 lbs
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Green eyes; brown hair.
    Marks, Scars, Tattoos: She has a scar on the neck. She has very prominent freckles.
    Clothing: Last seen wearing a black Harley Davidson tank top, blue jeans, tennis shoes and carrying a beige purse.
    DNA: Available

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Thomas was last seen leaving her residence in Santa Fe, Texas, in northern Galveston County. She was supposed to meet some friends and then go to a Galveston Island nightclub, but she never showed up. Two days later she was reported missing by her family.
    Investigators believe she might have been kidnapped and killed because she had served as a police informant in a drug bust. Foul play is possible.

    Investigators
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    Galveston County Sheriff's Department
    409-766-2300

    NCIC Number:
    M-170861541
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/634dftx.html
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/thomas_michelle.html
    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M7/16/20033:15:37PM'
     
  7. zinc

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    What do you guys think about this Jane Doe in Rockdale, Milam County, Texas possibly being Michelle Doherty Thomas? The body build and dates of disappearance and death are not totally unreasonable.

    There are a few maybe caveats, MDT's description is very brief, so I don't know if any of these matter.
    1. The UID's mild spina bifida leading to a possible limp. MDT's description says nothing about a limp or about any known health issues.
      Edited to add: Many people with spina bifida occulta don't have any symptoms. From the information provided, it's not clear what form of spina bifida the UID has, only that she could possibly have had a limp or posture problems.
    2. The UID's very poor dental health. MDT's description says nothing about dentals and she's not in NamUs. Someone evidently cared enough about her to file a report, though. Would this make it less likely for her to have not gotten any dental care in several years?
    3. Where would MDT have been in the intervening time and why?

    I found this old article about Rockdale/Milam County Jane Doe that contains some more discussion and a sketch that looks a little like Michelle Doherty Thomas. The article is from 2007 so DNA ought to be done by now, but we all know how that goes. Doe Network says DNA is pending.

    Milam County takes fresh look at old murder case
    http://209.189.226.235/stories/010907/local_20070109004.php

    Also, I found a mention of MDT in a Google News search that gives her disappearance date as October 26, 1985 instead of October 5.
     

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    Pasting the article here for reference in case it disappears.

    Milam County takes fresh look at old murder case
    By HOLLY HUFFMAN
    Eagle Staff Writer
    http://209.189.226.235/stories/010907/local_20070109004.php
    (Originally located at http://www.theeagle.com/stories/010907/local_20070109004.php)
     
  9. Derek

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    I don't think it's her. Although the height and weight are either exact or very close, something tells me we'd know if MDT would have had spina bifida. But I can't judge this one very well if details are left out of MDT's description.
     
  10. zinc

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    Yeah, I'm iffy on the spina bifida aspect. One reason why I don't discard her is that if the UID indeed had the "mild" kind, she may have had a limp, or she may not have known she had spina bifida at all. Many people with spina bifida occulta don't have any symptoms.
     
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    There's a resemblance (the nose especially, IMO), though it's hard to tell by that drawing. It doesn't seem like MDT would be mistaken for Hispanic as she has very pale skin tone with prominent freckles, but Jane Doe's body may not have been in a condition where they were sure. The timeline makes sense, though, as long as the Oct 5 disappearance date for MDT is the accurate one. And the place where MDT disappeared is only about a three-hour drive from the place where Jane Doe was found, so that's definitely within the realm of possibility...
    Just my :twocents:
    :)
     
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    Could this be Angelica Maria Longoria? She went missing in 1985 in California. The police originally thought she was an endangered runaway, which could explain the timelapse. Problem is, she was really tiny; she was about six inches to one foot shorter (she could potentially be barely 4 feet tall) than the Jane Doe, but all of her other stats match up. I sort of feel that there isn't enough information on her to list spina bifida as a medical condition.
     
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    Joyce Irene Walcott

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/walcott_joyce.html

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/3063/0/

    Missing since April 29, 1986 from Reseda, Los Angeles County, California.
    Classification: Endangered Missing


    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: January 5, 1967
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3; 106 pounds
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes. Walcott's nickname is "Sneezie."
    Scars, Marks, Tattoos: Scar on abdomen, scar on left buttock, scar on neck, scar on thigh, unknown which one. Joyce had an operation in which a bone from another part of her body was implanted in her neck to replace the bone that had been shattered after a severe car accident.
    Clothing: Blue and white short sleeved pullover top, blue Sol Levi's, white tennis shoes with turquoise stripes.
    Jewelry: LCD Timex watch; a yellow metal necklace with a unicorn charm.
    Dentals: Dental X-rays Available.
    DNA: Available in CODIS.

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Walcott disappeared from Reseda, California on April 29, 1986. Walcott left her aunt's apartment shortly before noon, and walked the two blocks up Sherman Way to a 7-11 convenience market to drop off a job application. She then walked next door to Sav-on, picked up an application and took it over to Winchell's Donuts to meet two girlfriends and fill out the form. The application never got dropped off, and Walcott never made it back to her aunt's apartment. Foul play is suspected.

    The fact that she had severe injuries from a car accident really seems to keep me wondering if this could be her. Also, date, age, weight, height and hair match. Only thing bothering me is Joyce's teeth look beautiful in her picture and Jane Doe's are misaligned and in bad shape. So this is just a shot in the dark...
     

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    I'm reluctant to post this missing person because of the distance from where she went missing to where this woman was found BUT there are some similarities:

    Erica Jayne Franolich

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/franolich_erica.html

    Erica Jayne Franolich
    Missing since October 13, 1986 from Middleburgh, New York
    Classification: Endangered Missing

    Vital Statistics
    •Date Of Birth: August 12, 1960
    •Age at Time of Disappearance: 26 years old
    •Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3"; 100 lbs.
    •Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
    •Marks, Scars: Mole on left knee
    •Clothing: Baggy shirt, blue denim overalls.
    •Dentals: Buck teeth
    •AKA: Erica Poprafsky

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Erica was last seen at approximately 21:00 in the vicinity of Main Street and Rail Road Avenue in Middleburgh, NY.


    She wasn't reported missing for five months after she went missing...she went missing around the time they think this woman was murdered. They are about the same size/height and this woman has protruding teeth.

    I also just read that they had recently moved to Ny from somewhere else...the article didn't mention where.
     
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    Huh. Via some Googling I found that Mrs. Franolich and her family relocated to New York from Texas. The Franoliches were married in 1985 in Travis County, Texas, which is only 2 counties over from Milam County, where the UID was found.

    However, the UID's age estimate of 12-16 or 13-18 years strikes against her being Erica Jayne Franolich.

    The UID's dentals are not in NamUs. Doe Network says her maxilla and mandible could not be located in the grave when she was disinterred, which I don't see reported in other articles. They apparently took dental photographs before burial and must have noted her permanent second and third molars status while deriving her age, I assume. Mrs. Franolich has only dentals, no DNA in NamUs.

    NamUs MP # 643: Erica Jayne Franolich
    https://findthemissing.org/en/cases/643
     
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    Another few articles about the UID:

    KMIL News: January 8, 2007: SHERIFF'S OFFICE RELEASES FORENSIC DRAWING ON 1986 UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE
    http://www.kmil.com/Localnews2007/0108IDwoman.htm
    Temple Daily Telegram: Unsolved mysteries leave Milam sheriff, deputies perplexed
    http://www.tdtnews.com/archive/article_9364f6d9-6669-5ac3-95a4-e40b0cf2ab7c.html
     
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    I hadn't realized that the ages were that far off...and I suppose they estimated the age by how closed the fissures in the head were so it's probably pretty accurate. :(

    I knew the age was more than the UID's but I'd seen ages listed before on Doe etc...and when the person was found sometimes the age was way off...that's the only reason why I wasn't ruling her out only because of that.

    Thank you Zinc for posting the additional articles...they were very interesting to read.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Name: Maricela Lopez Savedra
    Sex: Female
    Date of Birth: March 7, 1973
    Age: 14 years
    Height: 162 cm (about 5’5” to 5’6”)
    Weight: 68 Kilos (about 150 lbs)
    Physical Appearance: Thin
    Complexion: Light
    Face: Small and Oval
    Eyes: Small and round, Light Brown
    Hair: Normal, black and moderately curly.
    Mouth: Small
    Nose: Small, flat and thin
    Forehead: Wide
    Eyebrows: Thin
    Lips: dark and thin
    Chin: Round and Small
    Date of Disappearance: April 8, 1984
    Place: La Turvina
    Circumstances: Involuntary Departure
     

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