TX - Scott Buchholtz-Sanchez, 3 wks, decapitated, San Antonio, July 2009 *Insanity*

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  1. barb0301

    barb0301 New Member

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    According to the report, the mother says she "heard voices" that told her to kill her child. When officers arrived, she said she wanted to kill herself.

    http://www.kens5.com/latestnews/stories/KENS20090726-Baby-Killed-NW-Side.7b68a56a.html

    I can't stomach these stories anymore !! There were other people in the house with this mother and newborn. Why didn't any of them notice the mental state of this "mom" and step in?

    She's in the hospital now, but will be charged with capital murder when she is released.
     
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  3. DollyPardonMe

    DollyPardonMe New Member

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    There are just no words. :cry: Poor little baby boy. If the mother was so far gone that she was hearing voices, D@mn, the people living with her that didnt notice this woman needed help! Someone needs to pay for the death of this little angel. Rest in Peace, sweet baby..You're safe now!

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  4. Reannan

    Reannan Seek Brotherhood, Cherish Solitude

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    Just when you think you can't be any sadder for the state of humanity... :mad: Poor little baby, he never had a chance.
     
  5. christee

    christee Yup, I'm listening

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    So sad, so tragic, so unnecessary
     
  6. Disguiseduser0308

    Disguiseduser0308 New Member

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    You'd be amazed how much people don't see when a woman is suffering from postpartum illness. Considering the age of the baby, I'm going to take a guess this mother suffered from postpartum psychosis. Now, before you say it's a bs illness let me tell you, it's very real. It's unfortunate this mother didn't get the help she needed.

    The people living in the home may have believed the mother only suffered from baby blues. It can look like that to someone looking from the outside in. Until science figures out a way to read people's minds there's just no way to know the severity of an individual's postpartum illness. Usually not until it's too late.

    Having been a sufferer of PPP, I just cannot condemn this woman. I am saddened for both her and her baby. The help is there.. we have to let women know it's okay to tell someone. Even the scariest things you may think or hear, you have to tell someone.. anyone! For you and your baby.
     
  7. akashana

    akashana New Member

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    I may have to take a break from WS for a little while. These sad, sick cases are affecting me more and more. My homepage is set to CNN, and that's bad enough for tragedies, but there is just so much horror and murder of innocents in the world! It's demoralizing. Don't get me wrong; this is a great site, but the murders of kids are really getting to me. Maybe it's because my daughter is 2 months pregnant and I keep thinking about her or her baby in those situations . . . I dunno. It's because of her that I can't bear to look at all the young missing and murdered girls' pictures and reconstructions. I focus on the men just because it's easier for me emotionally.

    Poor little guy. What a sad and terrible waste.
     
  8. diane

    diane New Member

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    Very sick crime.
     
  9. justthinkin

    justthinkin New Member

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    This is tragic. That poor, poor little baby.

    Despite having had children myself, I really don't understand PPD's causes. Is there something about childbirth that incites some form of latent schizophrena in some women whose families are prone to it?
     
  10. smart blonde

    smart blonde Websleuths Member

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    I think it has something to do with the fluctuation in hormone levels, which can cause chemical imbalances of the central nervous system.
    In turn, serotonin and dopamine levels in the brain get all out of wack.

    Scary stuff. Almost a 'luck of the draw' kind of thing, as there is no sure-fire test to predict who will or won't be hit with PPD, or to what degree.

    This reminds me of the Andrea Yates tragedy- the mother who drowned her five young children in the bathtub, because 'voices in her head' told her to.

    This is all just so sad.
     
  11. sissy's mom

    sissy's mom and pooter's mom too

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    She has to be sick... I would kill for MY child... but never kill them..........
     
  12. mae

    mae New Member

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    Well said.

    There are some associated risk factors and causes for PPP:
    From: http://bipolar.about.com/od/relateddisorders/a/postpartumpsych.htm
     
  13. smart blonde

    smart blonde Websleuths Member

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    Wow. Great information here. Thank you for sharing it!

    This is really 'must read' info... the more we know about this, the better chance we may have at recognizing the risks/signs in ourselves and/or others.

    It would be wonderful to help prevent future, similar tragedies from happening.
     
  14. justthinkin

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    I can understand how schizophrenia or schizo-affective disorder relates to PPP, which I earlier called PPD in error, but I just don't see straight bipolar disorder as being one of the causes. Hearing voices is not a feature of bipolar disorder. I don't know who the authors,Sharma and Mazmanian are or what their credentials are, but pregnancy putting a twist on bipolar is laughable to me. The twists they refer to are purely schizo in nature. Had they described what they were calling bipolar as schizo-affective disorder, then I'd agree with them. I've read a number of books about bipolar disorder, some of them clinical texts.
     
  15. believe09

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    I agree with this post-I think that this woman will absolutely pay the price for this horror once she is brought back to herself. Imagine, just imagine when she is brought back to being able to think clearly and to realize what she did. OMG. There are no words.

    I am a HUGE advocate for testing the day after delivery. There is a physician by the name of Dr Klaiber who wrote a book called Hormones and the Mind, IIRC. He believes that women who will suffer PPD and the like can be dx'd as soon as the day after delivery but easily within 3 wks by drawing blood and measuring the recovery of their hormones after birth.
     
  16. momtective

    momtective Lifetime WS Non-Mod

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    I agree and believe it should be absolutely mandatory with every single birth.
     
  17. WhyaDuck?

    WhyaDuck? Inactive

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    Stories like this make me pity people who cannot conceive or who have miscarriages/stillbirths... Reading stories like this must rip their hearts out.

    So tragic - bless that poor little baby.
     
  18. WhyaDuck?

    WhyaDuck? Inactive

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    When/if she comes out of this, she will suffer the torments of the damned with the realization of what she did.
     
  19. Disguiseduser0308

    Disguiseduser0308 New Member

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    I love the idea of testing and monitoring women postpartum. The Ob-Gyn association does have precautions in place. Most do have a questionnaire that is filled out before the Mom leaves the hospital and at their six-week check up. Unfortunately, this Mom and baby didn't make it to the six week mark. It's the time between hospital release and that six week mark we must do something about. There needs to be more follow up.

    The unfortunate thing is we don't hear a lot about PPP unless a mother has harmed her baby. Many women commit suicide because of this illness. Infanticide from PPP is far less common (no links just from my support group pamphlet). However, it seems a postpartum suicide isn't as sensational of a news story as infanticide.

    Please note, I am not saying this baby's death is not tragic. Whether the Mom had hurt herself or her baby, I would have the same feelings. She just needed help. Unfortunately, she didn't get it in time. :(
     
  20. Disguiseduser0308

    Disguiseduser0308 New Member

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    This is only one of the reasons why I will not condemn or judge her. She will live in her own private hell once, and IF, she is able to come out this. Of course, I understand the hell she was living on earth as well. Something I wish no mother or new baby had to go through. With education I hope we will soon see less of these stories. No mother or baby should have to suffer because of postpartum illness. I truly hope someday no one has to.
     
  21. southcitymom

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    This woman was/is mentally ill. God bless her and the child.
     

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