- Jul 29, 2011
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This reminds me of Lisa Montgomery case because she killed Bobbie Jo Stinnett and took her baby out of the womb to claim as her own.
This is so incredibly sad. There are no winners here, except the baby.... Mental illness raises it’s sad, scary, pathetic face.
In these types of cases when a woman snatches a baby, the typical perpetrator is not motivated by maternal envy or a burning desire for motherhood. It's usually her desire to hang on to a boyfriend or husband in a deteriorating relationship, experts said. To do that, she feels she must produce a baby.
"It sounds bizarre," said Cathy Nahirny, a senior analyst on infant abduction cases at the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. "It's to hold on to the male partner."
The reasoning may sound like a plot line from a soap opera, but the aftermath is tragic.
"Because she has already announced to her male partner that she's pregnant, the relationship may be warming up," said Nahirny, who has examined hundreds of similar cases. "She's afraid to tell him she has had a miscarriage. She has it in her head [that] he's going to leave."
The phenomenon transcends race and socio-economic status. The woman is likely to be of childbearing age and often overweight, according to the infant abductor profile used by the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. The profiles were formed after examining traits and police reports.
"The person is of low-self esteem, who either had a baby or lost a baby, had some kind of medical complication where she couldn't have a baby," said Jeff Aldridge, the president of Security Assessments International, which advises hospitals about security procedures for nurseries.
The abducted child is usually well cared for, Aldridge said.
Infertility generally does not drive the crime, experts say.
"It's not a matter of they're not able to produce," said John Rabun, executive vice president and chief operating officer of the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. Many of the women have given birth before and use that experience to feign another pregnancy. The issue for them is to produce a baby on cue, he said.
Once a woman lies to her boyfriend or husband about her pregnancy, she has to produce a child within that time frame.
"She's not able to tell him that she miscarried. He's going to leave her. She's under a time pressure," he said.
"This is not psychiatric issue. They're sane; they decide to commit a criminal act." Rabun said.
"I would say none of these abductors have psychotic breaks," she said. "It's too planned."
Now that baby Shamali has been found safe it's probably a moot point, but I know a lot of people (myself included) who have not or are not posting on any social media about a pregnancy.
I'm not completely convinced that mental illness is a factor in at least some cases, and maybe not in this one either. According to information compiled from analyses of 308 cases which occurred between 1983 and January 2017 the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children presented some characteristics of a typical infant abductor:
--Usually a female of childbearing age who appears pregnant.
--Most likely compulsive; most often relies on manipulation, lying and deception.
--Frequently indicates she has lost a baby or is incapable of having one.
--Often married or cohabitating; companion’s desire for a baby or the abductor’s desire to provide her companion with “his” baby may be the motivation for the abduction.
--Usually lives in the community where the abduction takes place.
--Frequently initially visits nursery and maternity units at more than one health care facility prior to the abduction; asks detailed questions about procedures and the maternity floor layout; frequently uses a fire exit stairwell for her escape; and may also try to abduct from the home setting.
--Usually plans the abduction, but does not necessarily target a specific infant; frequently seizes any opportunity present to abduct a baby.
--Frequently impersonates a nurse or other allied health care personnel.
--Often becomes familiar with health care staff members, staff member work routines and victim parents.
--Often demonstrates a capability to provide care to the baby once the abduction occurs, within her emotional and physical abilities.
In addition an abductor who abducts from the home setting (is):
--More likely to be single while claiming to have a partner.
--Often targets a mother whom she may find by visiting health care facilities and tries to meet the target family.
--Often plans the abduction and brings a weapon, although the weapon may not be used.
--Often impersonates a health care or social services professional when visiting the home.
Furthermore, Cathy Nahirny, a senior analyst on infant abduction cases at the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children and John Rabun, executive vice president and chief operating officer had this to say in a 2011 interview with CNN:
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I know each case needs to be looked at based on the particulars but it seems that more often than not a woman who steals a baby is trying to repair or secure a relationship with her partner. And frequently the woman comes up with a complex and well organized plan to steal a baby, including making props to fake her pregnancy and spinning a web of lies over a period of time.
Hopefully we'll hear more about Miranda-Alvarez' actions and gain some insight into her motives and learn how she rationalized and justified murdering her friend in order to get the baby she wanted. I do understand that it may turn out that she's mentally ill but I'm not going to go there just yet.
In any case, she needs to be removed from society, either in jail or in a psychiatric hospital. MOO.
And now, sadly everyone will be deported. Merry Christmas.Thank goodness! LE was right on top of this since the start and that makes me think they had something to go by, more than just a theory. I hope we will hear what it was.
I'm so sorry Shamali and her sibs were robbed of a loving mom but I'm also grateful the officers and agents brought this poor baby home to her family where she belongs. Chief Acevedo made good on his statement.