Found Deceased TX - Sherin Mathews, 3, Richardson, 7 Oct 2017 #5 *Arrest*

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  1. LisaWL7TR

    LisaWL7TR Well-Known Member

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    Yep! Mommy Ears!!

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  2. JaneEyre

    JaneEyre Kindness matters - always

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    Agreed. If I know I may be needed, I wake easily and/or have trouble sleeping. But I can sleep harder if I have the confidence that someone else can handle whatever it is.

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  3. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    I can see it too, but not talking to LE might not be what she wants to do but is on the advice of her lawyers.
     
  4. agilbe

    agilbe Well-Known Member

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    Sherin used to eat just fine and then didn't. Holt even noted it in a report they filed. I'm wondering if Sherin was being compared to the "norm".
    One of my kids was at the high end of the percentiles and the other at the bottom.

    https://scroll.in/latest/855462/she...ner-in-india-says-girl-had-no-eating-problems
     
  5. blue22

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    Actually , she stopped speaking to LE BEFORE she retained counsel. I simply don't buy what the attorney's are selling. And you appear to. It's okay that we don't agree, that's what makes the world go 'round. IMO, they are only trying to improve her public image and are being hyperbolic.
     
  6. MsMarple

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    Instead of using that finger to dial 911. If the info linked in the last thread about choking/aspiration potentially causing death in 4 to 10 minutes (and the link was a good one) then WM might as well have confessed to cold-blooded murder. Even 2 minutes is an eternity when a child is choking and certainly enough time for an adult to realize medical help is needed.

    If WM was willing to tell this horrible second version we have to wonder what truth he's not telling. I'm afraid version 3, which may end up coming from LE and the ME, could be far worse. I'm just glad he's already incriminated himself into a long sentence in case Sherin's body was found too late to prove version 3.
     
  7. pamelado2

    pamelado2 Well-Known Member

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    To what end?

    The reason I thought it was done was so that there was more coverage on the news.

    I personally think that she never believed her husband's story and she knew he did something with Sherin.

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  8. blue22

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    No, this is not true. The totality of the situation which required CPS to be involved is taken into account. He behavior and actions before, during, and after he daughter was killed WILL be scrutinized. To determine what is best for the child, her choices factor in enormously. When a child is killed in a parent's home, everything about that parent's ability is considered. They cannot determine that while ignoring the situation. CPS cannot determine the best interest of the child without examining the parent. They ALWAYS consider the parent's behavior and actions. Every.Single.Time.
     
  9. RiceCasparr

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    Often if they suspect parental involvement (and even when they dont) they don't want them looking/finding the child, at least on their own, as it can compromise DNA evidence.

    Case in point: John Ramsey finding Jonbenet and disturbing the scene/moving the body.

    JmO

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  10. CanadianWells

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    LOL. No, we would have our own thread on here if he did. Hehe. I wonder too... I mean, like I said I have no idea what to make of it. Maybe he was very trustworthy in her eyes and hence she was able to sleep through whatever happened. People do snap. Or maybe it’s exactly what so many fear— that she wasn’t sleeping after all. Hard to tell, but I do know it’s possible to sleep through a lot and still be a good mom, as I consider myself to be one. I do have my own speculations on what happened, but I’m pretty sure I’m not allowed to discuss them atm, and I probably have followed too many cases that sway my opinion.
     
  11. DakotaMayi

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    BBM. That was far too convenient. That scene had been disturbed long before he "found" Jonbenet right then.

    Sorry, O/T.. but those Ramsey's really get me.
     
  12. kirkassoc

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    I can't help wondering if this horrific nightmare could have been avoided if there had only been a biological child in that home. MOO, JMO
     
  13. DakotaMayi

    DakotaMayi Former Member

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    Would you not still want to find your baby? Make sure they are not out there alone any longer than they have to be?

    (I really cannot put myself in that position and imagine what it would feel like so this is a general question to see what everyone thinks, Nothing snarky... :) )
     
  14. DakotaMayi

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    ETA. Ignore me... I read it wrong. :crosseyed:
     
  15. RiceCasparr

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    Exactly. And I believe LE found the disturbance convenient too.

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  16. Amonet

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    I don't think the attorney's notice said much different in substance from what the police have said, but it had a very different spin on it.

    I don't think we, or even the mom, can know for sure whether she has any information that might be useful to them. There's usually something someone forgets to say, especially when they're stressed out.

    When Sherin's status was 'missing' would the police have asked the mom, "did your husband ever take Sherin into the garage to drink milk when she woke in the night?" But now it's a very important question. What if the mom woke up one night and did think the door to the garage had just closed as she walked into the room and she didn't mention that when she was questioned while Sherin was 'missing'? Memories like that might be very important now that they're in the case-building phase rather than in the 'where can she be?' phase.

    But, as someone earlier said, if those earlier dealings with the police really did feel like interrogations, then it's understandable that the mom wouldn't want to repeat that experience. She might be terrified they'll take something out of context or twist something she says and it might harm her chances of future contact with her remaining daughter.

    As for her not searching, I think police usually hold parents off from participating in searches and try to keep them in the home or a friend/relative's house with a police liaison officer. A police representative should be the one making pleas in front of the media and it's optional for parents to join them for that.

    A family representative, either from LE or the attorney's office should, imo, be the one to make a statement to the media to thank people for their concern and for assisting LE with searching or tips. I wouldn't blame a parent or family for being lackadaisical if such a notice didn't go out, I don't consider it to be their responsibility.
     
  17. agilbe

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    A minor correction: the garage wasn't mentioned until after Sherin's body was found. But that reminded me - someone posted a link to video of SM and a relative arriving home and driving into the garage. Maybe it was Maria Guerrero?

    Hang on... yes! Here it is:

    https://www.facebook.com/MariaGuerreroNews/videos/1039832706159513/

    Does that look like a typical place to feed a child milk at 3am? It sure doesn't to me!
     
  19. Inthedetails

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    From the link:

    "The social worker who visited Sherin Mathew's family for follow-ups records that 'eating has become more and more challenging for the family'. 'She likes to eat food outside but not at home'."


    Could the garage be an "outside" place that Sherin preferred to eat?? IDK.


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  20. bluedivergirl

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    This case brought back a 50-yo memory., from when we were vacationing at a northern resort.

    My little sister was very young, months old. I was 8. My mom was feeding her a cereal slurry, as was common then. My sister sneezed, and suck the cereal mix back into her lungs.

    My mother snatched her out of her carrier and ran screaming to a central area. There was a fire bell and she began clanging it wildly. Help came, and after a short hospitalization, lil sis was fine.

    That's normal.
     
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