TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #42

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  1. Linnie14

    Linnie14 New Member

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    YOU are absolutely and 100% correct in your post. What you have expressed is also my conviction and opinion of MURDER!!! Thank you.
     


  2. Marie A

    Marie A Well-Known Member

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  3. cady

    cady Well-Known Member

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    MURDER is never justifiable, but often, homicides are deemed to be justifiable.JMO
     
  4. ardenmost

    ardenmost Former Member

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    Thanks for keeping the conversation going.
     
  5. al66pine

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    cady, Thanks you for distinguishing ^ this out ^ as a point of criminal law. Moral or religious justification is another matter. IDK if this thread is approp. place for that subject, not going there.

    If anyone is suggesting Missy death's was legally justified in any way, shape, or form under TX criminal statutes, doubtful to me. I may be misunderstanding.

    Briefly, in Texas like many states, "justifiable death" includes death caused by -
    --- gas, injection, etc to prisoner by gov/st. personnel, pursuant to ct order (& historically by hanging, guillotine, etc).
    --- defense of self, or
    ---defense of others.
    For Texas' penal code re:
    "GENERAL PRINCIPLES OF CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY
    CHAPTER 9. JUSTIFICATION EXCLUDING CRIMINAL RESPONSIBILITY".
    http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/docs/PE/htm/PE.9.htm

    JM2cts.
     
  6. TexasEx

    TexasEx Active Member

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    Last month Midlothian PD arrests an Ellis County constable for alleged evidence tampering.

    Last week the Ellis County sheriff resigns before pleading guilty to a misdemeanor assault charge.

    And now the Midlothian PD has asked the Texas Rangers to help them investigate an officer-involved shooting. (Good for them for requesting the help.)

    http://www.fox4news.com/news/241013991-story

    I hope the MPD and the FBI are developing a solid case against the perp(s) in the Missy Bevers case, but wonder if such upheaval in local law enforcement is hindering progress. Only speculating.
     
  7. knifemaster17

    knifemaster17 New Member

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    You left out the judge who gave herself an enormous raise! Hope they wait till after re-election. Texas Rangers is standard procedure. I don't think they had to call them in. JMO
     
  8. cady

    cady Well-Known Member

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    Missy, clearly was MURDERED. But some kook out there for some unknown reason, feels that her killing was justified. No court will see it that way, just to clarify! JMO
     
  9. ardenmost

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    Two comments from a poster back in May:
    1--Why don't we know who accompanied BB to MS?
    2--Why haven't 911 tapes been released?

    STILL valid questions, IMO.
     
  10. WannaBDetective

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    WannaB here.
    I backed off following and stopped posting.LE doesn’t seem to want us around and no new info is being discovered or released.

    With the benefit of time and countless hours logged by faithful sleuthers; we know a fewthings.There is as much, if not more,that we don’t know. How much LE knows is the wild card. As frustrating as that is to us, I can imagine it is many times more frustrating for SP.Whose life hangs in the balance. And I suppose I am willing to make that trade off.Especially since that is theonly option I really have.This is a Chinese election.

    We’re approaching a year; I’ve followed it from a week or two in.
    I sit back with a rainy Sunday evening to kill, to collect my meandering thoughts and observations.


    I’ll start off by saying:
    This is solely my personal opinion, which has been frequently proven to be wrong.I have no agenda.I attempt to hold no personal prejudices.For those I am sure to offend; I am sorry. That was not my intention.


    I admire some of the earliest prognosticators.They stopped LE from identifying SP as a male to say, “No; this looks more like a woman.” I believe they are right. I believe SP is 5’4 to 5’5. I’m going to accept the high level of scientific measurement done by the experts in Tarrant County. They gave a range of 5’2 to 5’7. Why? In case there was artificial padding in either the helmet or shoes.If they said 5’4 to 5’5 and the perp was 5’7.S core one for the defense.

    Studying the video and comparing context, the person has many attributes of a smaller than average person. The average American is 5’7.From the freeze frame of SP by the “magazine rack”, SP does not carry a lot of extra weight below the waste.The padding at and above the waste conceals their upper body size, but unless this person is significantly disproportional, it doesn’t appear to be overly heavy.While I disagree with BatBrat’s height estimate, I think she was pretty accurate on thickness.

    This height is more prevalent among women. Some of the misdirection, and idiosyncrasies lean toward a woman at least being involved in the planning and likely carrying it out.The clearest picture of SP looking at the hallway camera seems to indicate a rather light-skinned, softer featured individual. I believe theycame from the west (less development), parked the car behind the building and left going west.She was murdered soon after she arrived and they were out of there in less than 10 or 12 minutes.

    We don’t know if there was an accomplice. If there was one inside COCC, they pulled off a very unlikely feat of avoiding any cameras, shadowing, or indications from SP. However, the severity of the damaged doors and windows (unlikely asmallish female), the calmness of SP, amount of planning, lean toward an accomplice. The abnormal extra-curricularactivity at SWFA, is unusually coincidental.But the more people involved.The greater risk.

    So we really don’t know if there was an accomplice, nor to what level they were involved.The level of detail, strategy, and bafflement of LE thus far might point to help from someone with LE or military background.Or they could just be dang-dog-lucky.

    I believe a small handgun was used as the murder weapon. MB was extremely fit and strong, as well astrained; and would appear to have the advantage in a manual confrontation. To instigate that kind of attack would be brazen. Hat-tip to Jethro in pointingout that the level of blood evidence did not allow instant recognition of SP’s path out of the building; thus not likely an extensive pre-mortem conflict witha hammer.The hammer was later used tovent frustration and aggression. Anddisfigure (the funeral was closed casket).

    Motive. Let’s start out with what I don’t believe is motive (IMO).I don’t think this was random.There are way too many moving parts.The attack was too unusually targeted (more tc).There has been no similar activity,similar church break-ins before or after. The extensive planning and preparations (see outfit); the poor possible payout of this target.They did not lookor sincerely attempt to find anything.They were meandering and waiting for something/somebody.Very unburgular-like

    I don’t think it was proximity to covert or illegal activity.She would probably have told her husband or someone else about something (MB was very verbal and communicative; with 1000+FB friends).This would show up somewhere (SM, etc.) or sprung a leak somewhere. She was not the type to judge or seek out orbe around potential trouble.She just loved everyone and wanted everyone to love her.That was an overwhelming theme of those who described her character.

    I don’t think it was religious, a life-style judgement, or anything of that nature.The family mainly went to two churches (one home church, one with a thriving youth ministry for the kids). I am familiar with both, one more than the other.I know their theology. I know and have had lunch with one of the pastors.They both have mainstream Baptist roots, and are targeting the segment of society that might not engage in a more traditional church experience.If there is a church tie; it actually would actually be the fact that these churches had a less judgmental philosophy and thus might attract a slightly rougher crowd than First Baptist County-Seat.

    If you are easily offended.This would be a good time to role and scroll. What was unusual in this case?Missy was anoutlier.She worked out 3 hours a day for herself and then led others in sessions or private workouts. That floored me. The gym where I work out has paid trainers and class-leaders, and in watching them lead others in exercise, I would assume THAT would be enough to keep themselves in tip-top shape.To add up to three hours of personal workout time.That is an outlier.

    Another outlier was the number of men she was physically involved with. SIL was on MSM divulging an affair that she was involved in the past year or two.Police and BB (backed by SW) also indicate the CW was familiar and flirtatious in the beginning of the year and uncovered evidence that this was leading to a rendezvous by spring.KS was issued a search warrant because of evidence found and/or divulged by BB. In one document, it mentions one of her being involved with one of these men and other liaisons (plural was used).When parsing and putting all the pieces together, there was evidence for at least 3 recent/ongoing extra-marital relationships. That were known.I do not say this in judgement.As the patron saint once eloquently said, “There,but by the grace of God, go I.” And would highly encourage anybody who would judge, anyone who would downplay the horrific-ness of this terrible crime to get some perspective in your life.

    However.These are pertinent facts, and in pursuit ofthe truth, I will not shirk away from facts because I don’t like them. Jealousy and betrayal are two major motives of murder.And the situation leaves the door open to both of them. Very early on, LE from other jurisdictions repeated from their experience:Money, sex and relationships. And I don’t want to hear these circumstancesare just every-day America. Statistics do not bear that out.Especially among the demographic of 45 YO, church-going, Bible-toting mothers of three.

    Back to the crime scene.She was attacked witha hammer to the head and chest.There’s your next outlier.I was bored last night and went on line to study hammer attacks (they’re more common than you think.) And with our main streetsbecoming saturated with cameras, you can actually spend a couple hours actually watching them.Observations. With the hammer, the effects of size and strength are amplified.No where did I see a smaller person beating a more robust person because they had a hammer(with could more easily happen with a knife). None of the conflicts lasted over 2-3 minutes, and in some cases, the victim was able to defend themselves and escape.IF agun was not involved, no conflict would probably have lasted over a few minutes.

    The other outlier.SP attacked her chest.Nowhere did this every happen. Ever. Frankly. I tried to envision howit could happen (the victims had their hands out and took defensive measures,often trying to immobilize the hammer).I believe her chest was attacked after she was down and immobile(probably shot).And it was done in extreme rage.And it targeted hersexuality.

    Who would have the motive? In every relationshipthere are two sides and either/both can, and probably would feel emotions of extreme anger. One the one side, you had MB telling BB everyday how much she loved him.And we know the husband was aware of at least some of the relationships. On theother side, there is someone who could likely in relationship with the person she is with. Ultimate betrayal and possible threat to an established relationship.

    About 3 months in, I stated that if the crime is not solved in a year, it is probablyis a “hit” by someone one-removed from the cast of characters.Interesting, looking back, several mentioned the possibility that it might not be key players, but close relatives or sig others.At the time, I thought that was quite unlikely.The longer this goes on, the more likely I believe that becomes.And the more unlikely this will be to solve. Having said all that; LE has said they havenot come across the “love triangle” situation.Which opens the board up to another scenario.

    IF SP is someone who was personally taking out their rage over a perceived or alleged threat that MB posed; their strategy was a concealing outfit and well-constructed plan.
    IF it were someone in proximityto the B family; their strategy was to have it carried out by someone removed from the situation and off the radar.

    If itwas someone on the SW list, I would hope that would have been resolved bynow.

    LE lackof fear/threat of this happening again speaks volumes.

    Looking at the Delphi case underscores how difficult these can be to solve.They have a clearer picture, an audio recording, a smaller community, 5X the manpower, 5X the leads, and 5X the reward money.And probably more physical evidence.From what I can tell. And still nothing.
    So we are at a loss. It’s all on the MPD at this point. We’re counting on you to bring Missy justice.
     
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    Very good!!


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    LOL I'd love it if a group of you would meet down there and snoop around for a weekend. I'm too far away, but a bunch of you are within driving distance. You could brainstorm and actually have fun doing it. Think about it! JMO....Maybe have a glass of wine with the famous Tamara....., get some exercise and by all means, go to churches. JMO
     
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    It would be interesting to hit up a few local "watering holes" on a Friday and/or Saturday night. After a few drinks people tend to say a little more.....
     
  15. WannaBDetective

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    Interestingly, when my wife's aunt was murdered, LE told us later that was one of the strategies they used. It's was a rough, tavern-heavy town and they'd "arrange" to have POI's meet up at the bar, liquor them up and have a pre-arranged person steer the conversation, wires rolling. Hoping to get some info.

    Not sure I'd want to have anyone show up that was 5'2-5'7, average build, light skinned.... LOL
     
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    liltexans Retired WS Staff

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    I recently found out I have a cousin living in Midlothian. I could visit family and sleuth this case. It's a bit of a drive, though.
     
  17. WannaBDetective

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    In the beginning of the post it you say:

    Not a fact that she was hit in face and chest with hammer. Only speculation by public

    .

    Then later:

    "......"Terri Bevers' had multiple puncture wounds found on her head and chest are consistent with the tools the suspect was carrying throughout the building"

    SP was walking thru the building carrying a hammer (hitting windows, etc.) So your objection is that I'm make the leap from seeing them walk around with a hammer and we're not positive that was the tool that LE later refers to that punctured her? That's fair. I've probably got 20 assumptions in there. Including the gender. And if one of them falls down, we loose several others. This is more of a Jenga game than a cross word puzzle, given how many pieces are missing.
     
  18. meade

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    Random thought: did perp check his/her watch at all while meandering around inside? Which wrist was it on? If perp knew Missy's schedule, shouldn't perp have been looking at watch constantly for her arrival time?

    Thought 2: the car in parking lot looks like they turned into the wrong lot and were confused. Like they couldn't figure out if it was the Church or not. But if they planned everything out, how could they screw that up?
     
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    #1--The second perp probably kept the hallway perp aware because 2nd perp was also a lookout.
    #2--The commercial signage at SWFA was lit up and was huge. The amount of time spent at SWFA
    was too long does not indicate an "oops" wrong place moment IMO.
     
  20. meade

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    I don't see a huge sign. Yes the building was lit but it was dark and in heavy rain. Poor visibility. Maybe was relying on GPS which was blocked due to storm (doubtful that perp used GPS though,too easy to track).

    Or perp was driving by memory or paper map and got the sides of the road mixed up.

    I only support this theory because it explains the bizarre actions. Pulling in and lights immediately off. Then driving around to make sure it's clear. Sees two cars, freaks out momentarily. Then regains composure and starts thinking it's not the right place. Parks to check map and/or talk to someone. Pulled under the lights to read paper map (didn't want to turn car's inside light on).
     
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