TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #46

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  1. dotr

    dotr Well-Known Member

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    My eyes may be playing tricks on me too, but what i think i see, is a woman (but could be male) with a sharp(ish) face and long dark hair pulled behind and sitting with a dog in the front seat (yellow lab or other light-coat dog w black nose?)
    imo, speculation.
    From, FromGermany's post upthread..

    [​IMG]
     
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  2. Gumshoe Stories

    Gumshoe Stories Missy Bevers Case Expert

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    1. Actually I don’t know that for sure. But I do know for a fact that those doors don’t get locked. So it’s hard to imagine SP walking all the way up to those doors and not entering. It would be out of character compared to the other footage we have seen.

    2. I have not seen any footage from inside the church other than what MPD released.

    3. Unknown what SP’s further movements are after walking up to the auditorium doors.

    4. No.

    5. Unknown. We know from public records that she had begun unloading and placing items on the ground at the front entrance. Whether she carried anything in is unknown.

    As for the doctor saying Missy “heard” something, I’m not sure that he can say that definitively. Even in seeing the extra footage, since there is no audio then all he could see is her turn her head toward something out of frame and then walk in that direction. So I think there’s no way to tell whether she heard something, or saw something, or both.
     
  3. SteveS

    SteveS Attention: All my comments are IMO MOO AFAIK etc

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    Your reaction is interesting to me, because I felt just the opposite.

    From a WS perspective, it wasn't really what we might prefer, of course, because speaking to the case wasn't what the interview was about. It was about dealing with tragedy and grief.

    But by making it conversational and two-sided, BB opened up and shared a lot of perspective that he otherwise might not have shared. He wasn't being forced under the spotlight to "answer these questions" but instead the sharing allowed him to relax and relate, then compare and comment on the basis of "My experience was the same, in this way" or "My experience was different in this way."

    There was never going to be anything said that provided answers to this case, because if he had the answers, the case would already be solved. But it does help put to bed a lot of nonsense ideas.

    More than that, at least to me, it's so far a breath of fresh air, focusing on the people and the process through BB's eyes, which we've previously heard next-to-nothing about, rather than yet another round of questions rehashing the same insufficient pieces of evidence (almost entirely second-hand stuff, dispersed by LE and derived from 2 videos, some interviews, and some affidavits) that we know about.
     
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  4. SteveS

    SteveS Attention: All my comments are IMO MOO AFAIK etc

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    I have a real question as to that interpretation, and to some degree with a lot of what we are seeing (ie, what we think we see) in these videos. The problem imo is that the perspective of what we are seeing, and where it would be seen if we actually did see it in that video, seems really off.

    In that enhanced picture, for example, it looks like the image of a person right behind the windshield. But that's not where people sit - they are way back behind the windshield, with a dash, steering wheel, some space, and THEN the person's body. I have to think something is really amiss, either in the decisions made to enhance said video, the interpretations of what those enhancements show, or both.

    My sense of things may be wrong, of course. But I sure do think it would be very informative if we had a video to compare, of a person driving at night in a 2012 Altima, with or without rain but under floodlights around a building, taken from a somewhat elevated angle, with windows up and then with windows down (for easier understanding), and then compare the relative locations inside the SWFA video Altima of these various splotches of imagery.
     
  5. Mistree

    Mistree Well-Known Member

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    Gumshoe,
    When you say front entrance I’m confused. Are you referring to the south awning covered entrance where her truck was parked OR the “MAIN” front entrance of the church on the west side?
    TIA
     
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  6. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    Steve, that’s a great idea. We do have some other non related SWFA videos from that parking lot. Nighttime and rain is the problem plus the high angle of the cam of course.
    What we have here is an additional magnifying effect caused by water on the glass IMO. Things look closer than they are, but they also become clearer (magnified) by the moisture patches on the windshield.

    A reanactment during a rainy night would be great, so we can compare apples to apples.

    ALL IMO

    -Nin
     
  7. Gumshoe Stories

    Gumshoe Stories Missy Bevers Case Expert

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    Sorry, I meant the awning entrance.
     
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  8. DeDee

    DeDee Well-Known Member

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    It's been five long years of being embedded in the mysterious and horrific murder of a lovely lady. Although I tried, I just cannot watch this today without feeling Brandon's PTSD. His aggressive body language comes from the unresolved acute traumatic experience. Can't imagine 3 young children living without their mother.

    Capture this Killer!
     
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  9. Razz

    Razz On Time Out

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    Her story was so tragic I had a hard time remaining focused on BB. And her situation and how she felt was not always like BBs. For me, it was a serious distraction.

    BB has always appeared to be "relaxed" in interviews. He doesn't seem to have any problems talking about whatever, wherever and whenever. IMO, this has caused him problems. I'm not sure why he continues to consent to these interviews. Yes, it's good for WSers. It gives us another listen and look.
     
  10. DeDee

    DeDee Well-Known Member

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    Nin,

    Do you have the file @Jethro4WS possesses where he isolated each frame of the SWFA video so you're not working from screenshots? Or, perhaps, you made your own file of individual frames and there are thousands, as I recall. You may not be working from SSs.

    If Jethro doesn't show up to drop the link, I'll search my files for the link, if need be.

    PS - Thank you so much for the important volunteer work you are doing for Missy.
     
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  11. Itsapuzzle

    Itsapuzzle Well-Known Member

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    Excellent work Nin. Just picking up on the dashboard object, do you think it's possible it's the windscreen wiper and water splash creating the illusion of something on the dash along with light reflection?

    Has anyone got a good shot of a sticker on the left window indicating it's a Texas registration? I haven't been able to see it at all. Thanks if anyone can put up a pic, that'd be great.
     
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  12. FromGermany1

    FromGermany1 I'm the same as always.

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    :) Oh, I remember the long haired, light coloured "dog" (?) very well, which I saw once, long time ago. Idk, if it was this or another, better pic .....
    ETA: Perhaps the woman could be a long haired male also. A kind of Jesus-type, so-to-say.
     
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  13. Gumshoe Stories

    Gumshoe Stories Missy Bevers Case Expert

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  14. Itsapuzzle

    Itsapuzzle Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the link @Gumshoe Stories. And thanks too for revealing the mystery object ... would not have picked it as that in a million years. I/we all can stop obsessing about trying to figure out what that object is.
     
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  15. Tiff23fr

    Tiff23fr Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    When I go back to the original SWFA video (unaltered / only zoomed), the drivers seat looks like someone in dark clothing with neck showing the way the SWAT Perp does. My eyes/opinion only.. This is from the 7min mark.
     

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  16. scoodyboo

    scoodyboo Well-Known Member

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    GS, thanks for posting this. One thing I'm confused about - was the perp wearing boots or shoes? I thought I'd seen reference to boots previously but the Stoner videos seem to talk about pant legs.
    (I also can't get over how there's no mud/messy/wet floors in the church given the rainy night.)
     
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  17. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    They seem to wear something like a low type hiking shoe/ lifestyle shoe:

    MB SP Lower leg shoe.png
    click to enlarge

    Source:
    MPD video


    -Nin
     
  18. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    There is a reflection caused by a light on the building plus wiper plus water, yes, but that happens earlier, twice actually, just before the windshield goes dark. The car is then in the process of passing the tree you see in the foreground. I thought at first it may be a reflection, but the object then went back into the interior of the car. No reflection IMO.

    ALL IMO

    -Nin
     
  19. No it's not

    No it's not that simple

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    DeDee, thank you, you would have to ask Jethro about that. I have spliced up the video into many short pieces and go after particular frame sequences. I play the video in adjusted mode (brightness, tonality etc.) and find key pieces I want to work on. We are talking about well over 20000 frames in totality.

    -Nin
     
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  20. coastal

    coastal Well-Known Member

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    Tonight I saved your images ^^ to Windows and used the magnifying tool on them. In the second image, the white object on the dash looks like a cowboy hat to me now. Like this:
    [​IMG]

    or this Stetson:
    https://www.amazon.com/Stetson-Mens...ocphy=9061200&hvtargid=pla-570642869200&psc=1

    I think it looks bigger than a baseball type hat.

    ETA: (I could also believe it's a bag of fries from Whataburger.)
     

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