TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

[lonewanderer]

This information has been known since the start of this thread. There was no room Missy was going to set-up in. There were going to work out in the covered area at the entry. The organization is strictly outdoors, they do not pay for the use of any facilities for the boot camps. They find free covered areas when it's raining. The church allowed her access to put her paperwork/sign in sheets on the table in the entry, due to the weather. It says it clearly on their website and each location for every class is outdoors. "Campers" bring their own weights, mats, etc.

From the website;

Camp Gladiator designs the most effective outdoor workout classes for
all fitness levels! If you don't see a class near you, check out our onlinown to be outdoors.

https://campgladiator.com/programs/camp/outdoor-locations

I understand that, but she did walk inside AND she was killed inside.

The way I see it, its a fairly safe logically conclusion that she would enter the building.

 

[FromGermany1]

This information has been known since the start of this thread. There was no room Missy was going to set-up in. There were going to work out in the covered area at the entry. The organization is strictly outdoors, they do not pay for the use of any facilities for the boot camps. They find free covered areas when it's raining. The church allowed her access to put her paperwork/sign in sheets on the table in the entry, due to the weather. It says it clearly on their website and each location for every class is outdoors. "Campers" bring their own weights, mats, etc.

From the website;

Camp Gladiator designs the most effective outdoor workout classes for
all fitness levels! If you don't see a class near you, check out our onlinown to be outdoors.

https://campgladiator.com/programs/camp/outdoor-locations

Afaik, it was said at the beginning, that the campers were allowed to use the bathroom, and therefore it could have been expected by the perp, that Missy would enter the building before start of the training.

 

[jetsfanjohn]

I understand that, but she did walk inside AND she was killed inside.

The way I see it, its a fairly safe logically conclusion that she would enter the building.

...and be confronted by a cosplay clown or a stone cold killer ?

 

[lonewanderer]

Afaik, it was said at the beginning, that the campers were allowed to use the bathroom, and therefore it could have been expected by the perp, that Missy would enter the building before start of the training.

This too, thank you for reminding me.

 

[FromGermany1]

...and be confronted by a cosplay clown or a stone cold killer ?

Tipsy (but somehow organized) killer for hire. MOO

 

[lonewanderer]

...and be confronted by a cosplay clown or a stone cold killer ?

Have you ever heard of the literal clown killer Shiela Warren? Dressed up as a clown to deliver flowers to her love rival and shoot her in the face at her doorstep in front of her young son.

 

[TexLil]

Crime Reporter's Notebook: 8-year-old case of a woman killed inside a North Texas church remains unsolved​

When police got to the scene, they noticed someone had shattered the glass on the back door and broke in. Initially, they thought it might have been a burglary, but nothing was taken.
"It certainly is strange occurrence at this time of the morning for a church to be burglarized early in the morning," said Midlothian Police Chief Carl Smith, 2016.
Police found surveillance tapes from cameras inside the church. And what they showed was shocking.
A person dressed in what appeared to be police SWAT gear complete with helmet and gloves was rummaging around the church, carrying what appeared to be a hammer.
"For all intents and purposes, here he is designed to look like a police officer. His intent was to look like a police officer," Smith said.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1857815931189071914

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Afaik, it was said at the beginning, that the campers were allowed to use the bathroom, and therefore it could have been expected by the perp, that Missy would enter the building before start of the training.

AFAIK is vague, this seems to say that your memory confirms the campers expected to use the churchs' restrooms and the murderer would know that, even through it not the ususal for the exclusively outdoor exercise group. Please provide a source, not just an assumption, someone that could actually speak for the church.
Use of a covered outdoor space isn't any different than the parks, parking lots, etc. that the campers use when it is not raining, none of which provide the use of restrooms unless it is free/open to the public, as is the exercise location. If the murderer thought she would enter the building with permission to use the restrooms, then any number of persons could have also entered and/or arrived at the same time. The fact that the murderer had only a couple of minutes to commit the murder and leave does not mean he was a mastermind with incredible skills (obiviously not, had to smash mutilple windows to get in and wore physically limiting garb), it means it was unfortunate that another camper didn't arrive a couple of minutes earlier to possibly witness him leaving. MOO

 

[dotr]

Did the perp purposely make a small noise, expecting the turn of a head, quickened breath, an eek a mouse moment? Were they try to replicate a scene from a campy horror flick, and all that tinkering around in the cupboards and breaking glass, part of a kind of fantasy foreplay? speculation, imo.

2023 rbbm
7 years later, still no arrests in Missy Bevers murder investigation
''Aside from the way the suspect walked, and how he or she was dressed, what stood out to Nirenberg -- something he told CBSNewsTexas he will never forget -- is footage that was never made public.

He said he saw video of Bevers inside the church before her murder. Nirenberg said she turned her head, appearing to hear something off-camera. It was very likely the moment she realized she was not alone, Nirenberg said.

"It sticks with you because you know what's coming," he said. "We've all watched those horror movies where you say 'you gotta get out of the house' and this was the real thing."

 

[Charlot123]

Did the perp purposely make a small noise, expecting the turn of a head, quickened breath, an eek a mouse moment? Were they try to replicate a scene from a campy horror flick, and all that tinkering around in the cupboards and breaking glass, a kind of fantasy foreplay? speculation, imo.

2023
7 years later, still no arrests in Missy Bevers murder investigation
''Aside from the way the suspect walked, and how he or she was dressed, what stood out to Nirenberg -- something he told CBSNewsTexas he will never forget -- is footage that was never made public.

He said he saw video of Bevers inside the church before her murder. Nirenberg said she turned her head, appearing to hear something off-camera. It was very likely the moment she realized she was not alone, Nirenberg said.

"It sticks with you because you know what's coming," he said. "We've all watched those horror movies where you say 'you gotta get out of the house' and this was the real thing."

I saw such a gait only once in my life. It is odd because the person steps like “a ballerina” while slightly rotating his upper body. Nothing specific, I don’t suspect any trauma, just a gait. I think he is a middle aged guy whose natural testosterone is not high. I think we’d pass him on the street and never notice.

 

[FromGermany1]

AFAIK is vague, this seems to say that your memory confirms the campers expected to use the churchs' restrooms and the murderer would know that, even through it not the ususal for the exclusively outdoor exercise group. Please provide a source, not just an assumption, someone that could actually speak for the church.

AFAIK , it never was said by someone speaking for the church.

 

[dotr]

Maybe i mentioned this before, or it has been sitting at the back of my head, but- FWIW. speculation, imo.....
Reminded of the perp who shot a female clerk in Michigan in 2017.

Michigan cold case: Chelsea Small murder remains unsolved 11 years later

It has been 11 years since Chelsea Small was murdered in Taylor and her family still does not have answers.

www.clickondetroit.com

 

[Midge Montana]

This sounds crazy but…
I must’ve watched the SwatPerp video 100 times, years ago. I just watched it today and saw it differently. What has changed is that I now walk like that! I am scheduled a knee replacement due to a horribly arthritic knee. This has actually bowed my leg and has made me step significantly abnormal enough to cause a bunion on that foot only.
They should see if anyone they’ve looked at had a knee replacement shortly after.

 

[dotr]

Nov 17, 2024 #thesun #us #worldnews
THIS is the moment a suspected killer calmly walks around a church clutching a hammer before allegedly murdering a mum-of-three.Terri Leann Bevers, known as Missy Bevers, was bludgeoned to death as she set up for an early morning fitness class.

• 17 Nov 2024
• Moment killer is seen on church CCTV before murdering mum & going on run

 

[FromGermany1]

This sounds crazy but…
I must’ve watched the SwatPerp video 100 times, years ago. I just watched it today and saw it differently. What has changed is that I now walk like that! I am scheduled a knee replacement due to a horribly arthritic knee. This has actually bowed my leg and has made me step significantly abnormal enough to cause a bunion on that foot only.
They should see if anyone they’ve looked at had a knee replacement shortly after.

Which side, left or right? SP, I mean of course.

 

[Midge Montana]

Left. After standing there a bit, they bend at the knee. I do that to take the pressure off my knee.
When start to turn around, I think they bend/lift it again.
I could be seeing things because of my knee but it struck me as familiar.

 

[Charlot123]

Left. After standing there a bit, they bend at the knee. I do that to take the pressure off my knee.
When start to turn around, I think they bend/lift it again.
I could be seeing things because of my knee but it struck me as familiar.

To be fair, there are many conditions affecting the knees. Gout, psoriasis, osteoarthritis. But what I paid attention to was the ballet walk, with the toes pointing outwards. I think the initial idea for the walk was stability. Were they taught ballet in childhood, or is it natural? Of interest, Missy was a fitness instructor. One wonders if she ever attended ballet or dance classes?

 

[Tower]

To be fair, there are many conditions affecting the knees. Gout, psoriasis, osteoarthritis. But what I paid attention to was the ballet walk, with the toes pointing outwards. I think the initial idea for the walk was stability. Were they taught ballet in childhood, or is it natural? Of interest, Missy was a fitness instructor. One wonders if she ever attended ballet or dance classes?

Out-toeing gait is due to a variety of factors that almost never indicate a background in dance or ballet. In fact, most of the elite dancers I’ve worked with stand with toes pointed out, but do not toe-out while walking.

Adults who out-toe are more likely to have hip or knee injuries, to be heavier or more sedentary than average. Pregnant women who toe out are believed to “waddle” because of their bellies, which is part, but it is due more to their hip and pelvis ligaments loosening up due to hormonal factors. I am a PT, but unverified, so here is a source.

Duck-Footed, or Out-Toeing: Symptoms, Causes & More

Learn to recognize the symptoms of a duck-footed gait, what causes it, and how to treat it at home or with medical approaches for severe cases.

www.healthline.com

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

They should see if anyone they’ve looked at had a knee replacement shortly after.

To be fair, there are many conditions affecting the knees. Gout, psoriasis, osteoarthritis. But what I paid attention to was the ballet walk, with the toes pointing outwards.

Adults who out-toe are more likely to have hip or knee injuries, to be heavier or more sedentary than average. Pregnant women who toe out are believed to “waddle” because of their bellies, which is part, but it is due more to their hip and pelvis ligaments loosening up due to hormonal factors.

LE already consulted with a forensic podiatrist, who knows far more than any person offering anedoctal observations, and he has said that he can't really conclude anything and the gear and footwear is a factor that is not measureable in it's affect on the walk/gait. Therefore, IMO, ideas put forth by us, the unqualified, are not of use. The podiatrist also explained that LE had him look at videos of (unknown) persons walking and he could not give an opinion about how he saw them walking compared to the suspect.

 

[Sheila Terranova]

I assume there’s no DNA ?