TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

[knla]

Dressed like that? Alone? Without a cop car lights going crazy in the parking lot?

I have found this theory absurd, and the only way I buy that the person wore and entire SWAT outfit to impersonate a cop is that the person wearing the gear is a little off their rocker and thinks it would work that way for them.

This was discussed a few threads back, and I can't see anyone with any sense at all thinking this would work, as well as anyone with any sense at all falling for the idea that the person in the outfit was really a cop.

I fully believe Missy was targeted and this was a well orchestrated plan, but this theory always makes me cringe really hard.

To me, this theory is just as cringey as thinking someone would be dressed from head to toe in a SWAT outfit at 4am to rob a church.

The outfit worked pretty well for them. The culprit looked goofy in that outfit and in his movements.
But they weren't injured severely enough to keep them from leaving the scene, and they must not have left anything that would help identify them. They haven't been caught yet after extensive effort from LE and sleuths. And they have video. The culprit isn't as dumb as he looks.

 

[arielilane]

New member here!

I was reading up on the Missy Bevers case this morning, came across this site, and decided to join.

The security footage at the church is quite interesting. At first I thought there's no way this was a targeted murder, because the person in the video is not "lying in wait." They're wandering around somewhat aimlessly, opening random doors, etc. He/she was simply burglarizing the place, and didn't expect to encounter someone at that time in the morning.

I then watched the security footage a few more times, and have now come to this conclusion: that's not a person burglarizing the place. That a person pretending to burglarizing the place. They knew there were camera everywhere, and was pretending to do "burglar stuff." A real burglar would have acted differently for a variety of reasons.

Here's what I think happened.

Someone wanted her dead. They knew the approximate time she would be showing up to the church on Monday morning. They put on a SWAT uniform for concealment and protection, then arrived at the church about 30 minutes before she would show up. They walked around, opening doors, smashing windows, going through filing cabinets, etc. to make it look like a burglary. (The video supports this, plus note that nothing was taken.) A few minutes before her anticipated arrival, the "burglar" goes to the front entrance and waits for her in hiding. They kill her a few minutes after she enters the church. It's also noteworthy that her jewelry wasn't taken.

Someone wanted her dead.

100%, but who wanted her dead? In addition, the tacky gear attire worn by the coward knew (imo) that Missy would not be armed because she would be arriving earlier than the others and setting up for class that fateful morning.

 

[lonewanderer]

The outfit worked pretty well for them. The culprit looked goofy in that outfit and in his movements.
But they weren't injured severely enough to keep them from leaving the scene, and they must not have left anything that would help identify them. They haven't been caught yet after extensive effort from LE and sleuths. And they have video. The culprit isn't as dumb as he looks.

I am agreeing with you. The outfit is quite clever, which further enforces my point that I do no think they were wearing it with the intention of trying to fool anyone into thinking they were an actual police officer.

 

[lonewanderer]

I agree the SWAT guy appears bored and disinterested. They would be moving a heck of a lot faster through the church looking for stuff to steal if that was their goal.
My problem is all that seems so unnecessary if your goal is to kill her. Instead of a plan that involves wandering around a church that may have a security camera, dressed like a SWAT guy, biding your time…why not park in a spot where you can see her drive up, check to make sure no one is around, get out and shoot her.
I sometimes wonder if the SWAT guy is the actual killer.

I may have an answer for this.

Missy was known to carry a gun with her.

Its highly unlikely Missy would be armed when entering the church to set up. So knowing that Missy would be inside the church, setting up for the class, in workout attire, and possibly having her hands full of workout equipment would greatly lower the chances of her having her having her gun on her, or having access to it close by.

Missy's killer could have felt like it was too much of a risk to try and shoot her in her car, where her gun was.

 

[Ohioan]

I am agreeing with you. The outfit is quite clever, which further enforces my point that I do no think they were wearing it with the intention of trying to fool anyone into thinking they were an actual police officer.

Yes, it's certainly possible, if not most likely, that the outfit was simply concealment from the overhead cameras. But would the outfit be advantageous - or a hinderance - when he/she attacked her? On the one hand I suppose the body protection would be advantageous if she fought back. But on the other hand, the body protection would make him/her less agile.

 

[lonewanderer]

Yes, it's certainly possible, if not most likely, that the outfit was simply concealment from the overhead cameras. But would the outfit be advantageous - or a hinderance - when he/she attacked her? On the one hand I suppose the body protection would be advantageous if she fought back. But on the other hand, the body protection would make him/her less agile.

It provided identity concealment, kept forensics off, and provided protection from physical attacks.

The outfit doesn’t look official, and I doubt it provided protection from bullets, but if it did to any extent, then that would make sense if they thought there was any chance at all that Missy would take her gun into the church with her.

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[lonewanderer]

Quick question from some shower thoughts this morning:

It has been asked in earlier threads; how could the killer be sure that Missy wasn't brining one of her daughters to the camp with her that morning?

My question to that, is "who was watching the kids for her?"

With Brandon on a fishing trip, and the (seemingly heavily involved in their lives) in-laws out of town, who did Missy rely on to watch the kids at 430am (or earlier, depending on when she left).

If it was established that Missy had care lined up for them, this could possibly answer that line of speculation. If the killer knew that Missy had a plan to leave them in someone else's care, then that would answer that.

If this information was useful to the construction of her murder, then how did it get out? If it was someone Missy knew extremely well (well enough to agree to watch her children at 430am), the information could have been used to orchestrate the plan further without any innocent casualties or witnesses. This person Missy knew well could have been helping in her demise (I have a particular person in mind).

Of course, the killer may or may not have had a close connection to Missy, and it could have been the probabilities game, banking on Missy not taking her young daughters to a fitness camp with her at 430am, and taking the risk that Missy would arrange for them to be watched over.

Either ways, I am really curious about Missy's arrangements for the girls that morning.

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Quick question from some shower thoughts this morning:

It has been asked in earlier threads; how could the killer be sure that Missy wasn't brining one of her daughters to the camp with her that morning?

My question to that, is "who was watching the kids for her?"

With Brandon on a fishing trip, and the (seemingly heavily involved in their lives) in-laws out of town, who did Missy rely on to watch the kids at 430am (or earlier, depending on when she left).

If it was established that Missy had care lined up for them, this could possibly answer that line of speculation. If the killer knew that Missy had a plan to leave them in someone else's care, then that would answer that.

If this information was useful to the construction of her murder, then how did it get out? If it was someone Missy knew extremely well (well enough to agree to watch her children at 430am), the information could have been used to orchestrate the plan further without any innocent casualties or witnesses. This person Missy knew well could have been helping in her demise (I have a particular person in mind).

Of course, the killer may or may not have had a close connection to Missy, and it could have been the probabilities game, banking on Missy not taking her young daughters to a fitness camp with her at 430am, and taking the risk that Missy would arrange for them to be watched over.

Either ways, I am really curious about Missy's arrangements for the girls that morning.

The oldest daughter was a teenager, no reason to speculate if Missy made arrangements/or should have, for anyone else to be with the children or if they were safe being looked after by the oldest sibling. By all accounts, Missy was a wonderful, responsible parent.

The information about the class times was on the internet, no need for "insider" information.

If you can't tell us who you think is responsible for her murder as it violates TOS, I wonder if stating you have a "particular person in mind" is a good idea. We can't ask you for specifics and it is just a "teaser" kind of statement.

 

[glassheater]

The oldest daughter was a teenager, no reason to speculate if Missy made arrangements/or should have, for anyone else to be with the children or if they were safe being looked after by the oldest sibling. By all accounts, Missy was a wonderful, responsible parent.

The information about the class times was on the internet, no need for "insider" information.

If you can't tell us who you think is responsible for her murder as it violates TOS, I wonder if stating you have a "particular person in mind" is a good idea. We can't ask you for specifics and it is just a "teaser" kind of statement.

I second this. I have a friend whose oldest daughter is 14 and other daughter is 12. She leaves them alone every early morning to go work out. This is a very devoted and hands on parent. I think it's ok for teenagers to be alone for a short period of time.

 

[lonewanderer]

The oldest daughter was a teenager, no reason to speculate if Missy made arrangements/or should have, for anyone else to be with the children or if they were safe being looked after by the oldest sibling. By all accounts, Missy was a wonderful, responsible parent.

The information about the class times was on the internet, no need for "insider" information.

If you can't tell us who you think is responsible for her murder as it violates TOS, I wonder if stating you have a "particular person in mind" is a good idea. We can't ask you for specifics and it is just a "teaser" kind of statement.

I second this. I have a friend whose oldest daughter is 14 and other daughter is 12. She leaves them alone every early morning to go work out. This is a very devoted and hands on parent. I think it's ok for teenagers to be alone for a short period of time.

Hmm...ok then.

I kept thinking they were much younger at this time.

Yes, perfectly valid to not have concerns about arranging care for them, and I never questioned Missy's parenting style.

So if the girls being home alone wasn't a major concern (and it was not), then could this information have been used to hedge the bets that Missy would be alone? Was there someone close to Missy who could discretely verify this as a fact?

 

[Trebor5591]

Missy was known to carry a gun with her.

Do you have a link to support this? If not, how do you know?

 

[lonewanderer]

Do you have a link to support this? If not, how do you know?

Who Killed Missy Bevers?

What should have been an easy crime to solve is now a cold case. On the 18th of April 2016, while getting ready to teach a fitness class at a local church, Terri “Missy” Bevers was murdered by an unknown assailant. Six years on, her case is still unsolved. Missy Bevers via courtjunkie.com Missy...

www.truecrimeedition.com

The Missy Bevers murder, 3 years later: Where the investigation stands today

Missy Bevers was found dead inside a church in Midlothian, shortly before she was scheduled to teach a fitness class.

www.wfaa.com

Keeping a Cold Case Warm: True-Crime Fans are Still Fascinated with Missy Bevers' Murder

A widower and a group of podcasters haven't stopped searching for answers into a perplexing crime, although they' don't share the same approach.

www.dallasobserver.com

 

[SteveS]

"Missy was known to carry a gun with her." .... Really? Those references posted don't support that assertion. They say Missy had a gun with her that night, a fact that came to light after the murder. But they don't say anyone knew she owned one, nor that she might carry it with her. Much has become known of her now, but before then, she was just a random singular person in a huge metroplex area living her life and trying to get a business going.

 

[FromGermany1]

Quick question from some shower thoughts this morning:

It has been asked in earlier threads; how could the killer be sure that Missy wasn't brining one of her daughters to the camp with her that morning?

My question to that, is "who was watching the kids for her?"

With Brandon on a fishing trip, and the (seemingly heavily involved in their lives) in-laws out of town, who did Missy rely on to watch the kids at 430am (or earlier, depending on when she left).

If it was established that Missy had care lined up for them, this could possibly answer that line of speculation. If the killer knew that Missy had a plan to leave them in someone else's care, then that would answer that.

If this information was useful to the construction of her murder, then how did it get out? If it was someone Missy knew extremely well (well enough to agree to watch her children at 430am), the information could have been used to orchestrate the plan further without any innocent casualties or witnesses. This person Missy knew well could have been helping in her demise (I have a particular person in mind).

Of course, the killer may or may not have had a close connection to Missy, and it could have been the probabilities game, banking on Missy not taking her young daughters to a fitness camp with her at 430am, and taking the risk that Missy would arrange for them to be watched over.

Either ways, I am really curious about Missy's arrangements for the girls that morning.

I think, the children were old enough to be left allone in the morning. In an emergency, they could have reached their mother via phone. Or their grandma from MB's side. Or their grandma from BB's side (if she wasn't on vacation).

 

[lonewanderer]

I think, the children were old enough to be left allone in the morning. In an emergency, they could have reached their mother via phone. Or their grandma from MB's side. Or their grandma from BB's side (if she wasn't on vacation).

Or their aunt….Brandon’s sister….

 

[FromGermany1]

"Missy was known to carry a gun with her." .... Really? Those references posted don't support that assertion. They say Missy had a gun with her that night, a fact that came to light after the murder. But they don't say anyone knew she owned one, nor that she might carry it with her. Much has become known of her now, but before then, she was just a random singular person in a huge metroplex area living her life and trying to get a business going.

Afaik, her husband had recommended to Missy to save herself with a gun, because he worried about her safety early in the morning. Whether he worried before or after Missy herself complained about an uneasy feeling, I don't know. I remember, that Missy had felt not quite okay during last time before she died, but felt as being stalked or similar. At her daily gym she behaved differently than usual, so as maybe having fear or other problems. IMO

 

[lonewanderer]

"Missy was known to carry a gun with her." .... Really? Those references posted don't support that assertion. They say Missy had a gun with her that night, a fact that came to light after the murder. But they don't say anyone knew she owned one, nor that she might carry it with her. Much has become known of her now, but before then, she was just a random singular person in a huge metroplex area living her life and trying to get a business going.

It was in her car, pretty close to her as she drove. This could be meaningful and imply it took it her with many places, but I digress, it could also simply mean she just regularly kept it in the car and was just used to having it in there.

Did she conceal carry or open carry regularly? We don’t know, but it is established that she did own a gun and at the very least had it in her car with her that morning. Was it every morning? We don’t know.

The fact is, she DID have a gun with her that morning, in her car.

 

[SteveS]

Yes I am well aware of the info that she had a gun, with a carry permit, and she had it in her truck that morning. We the public were informed of that from the reports of the murder and subsequent revelations, as well as the fact that BB wanted her to carry one because he was concerned for her safety.

But none of that backs the assertion - and implications - that "Missy was known to carry a gun with her." We don't even know to this day if she did always carry a gun, much less who (if anyone) else would have known it if she did. That info would not have been generally known to the general public, and maybe not even to her closest friends, and in fact may not have even been true.

 

[FromGermany1]

Yes I am well aware of the info that she had a gun, with a carry permit, and she had it in her truck that morning. We the public were informed of that from the reports of the murder and subsequent revelations, as well as the fact that BB wanted her to carry one because he was concerned for her safety.

But none of that backs the assertion - and implications - that "Missy was known to carry a gun with her." We don't even know to this day if she did always carry a gun, much less who (if anyone) else would have known it if she did. That info would not have been generally known to the general public, and maybe not even to her closest friends, and in fact may not have even been true.

What does it change, if someone knew or not or if it even was true, that Missy "carried"? The perp in the church, I believe, knew or feared it, otherwise his outfit wasn't necessary. He could have dressed with some black clothing and a ski-mask - ready to go for her. But NO, he saved himself with wearing a complete Swat-gear (fake or not), being "unconquerable" like a gladiator.

 

[SteveS]

What does it change, if someone knew or not or if it even was true, that Missy "carried"? The perp in the church, I believe, knew or feared it, otherwise his outfit wasn't necessary. He could have dressed with some black clothing and a ski-mask - ready to go for her. But NO, he saved himself with wearing a complete Swat-gear (fake or not), being "unconquerable" like a gladiator.

The loser perp's outfit and its meaning has been over-analyzed in this forum, in my opinion.

It's always all so assumptive based on the idea the loser perp was there to kill MB, yet nothing in the outfit itself actually indicates his intent. Only when we first assume he had intent to murder does it become some sort of tool for an intended murder, but that's a circular argument.

What we do know is that the outfit was effective for this loser perp because it seems to have left nothing for LE to work with. They aren't sure of exact height, weight, gender, skin color, have no DNA, no fingerprints, nothing - and that result doesn't help us in determining who did it or why they were there (because any person there to do any crime would have had no desire to be apprehended - committing a lesser crime than murder wouldn't have a perp any less desirous of remaining anonymous). The outfit neither helped nor hindered perp in shooting someone else, either. And we don't even know if the perp had any real expectation that a shooting would be happening.