TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #16

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What if this killer is so intelligent she even deliberately decided to kill Missy at some time when her hormones could easily be said to be out of whack? You know, so if she were to get caught she knows she has the hormone chip to play.

Let's just say hypothetically it is a woman and she is going to use the excuse as you stated. Does that give her a pass in my book? No way. I am a woman and I'm in early menopause because I had surgery. My hormones get out of whack but that would not excuse me or any other woman with hormone issues to kill someone. No no, the person who did this planned it and planned it in advance in my opinion.
 

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I respectfully disagree and here is why. To a specialist in facial recog that pic is pure gold. They know who that is. They are IMO putting all the pieces together as in more than one perp? evidence etc. Arrest imminent IMO. And they will have all they need.

Sure hope you're right. Sorry I'm Debbie downer.
 

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Gosh, Sparky, I am sorry. I guess you mean the ones I just posted. Please delete or should I?

I am asking because mine is black and blue, with purple only on right part of face. Please delete if you are speaking to my posts

Just take the origional pic, change it to black and white. Sharpen it, lighten it and etc....until you see the face. Don't worry about anything below the neck or, anything behind them. You're only working on the face with tools not colors. Use a screen shot from the HD video. HTH

ETA: don't blow it up so large it gets pixelated.
 

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LeeBee,

You think it is weird that none of us have gone to a church we're not familiar with (that just had a brutal murder) and walked around taking photos of the interior? New to this forum, but is that something that is typically done?
 

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Respectfully, I don't think an ear would be visible because helmets protect them. But, if they sort of tweaked the helmet to the side in order to be able to hear, it would be visible, so now I'm thinking about it. I would surely want to make sure to be able to hear anyone approaching, unlocking the door and how close to me they were! A helmet and balaclava covering my ears would be incredibly frustrating. And that leads me to wonder about what others were saying about there being a second person letting them know of MB or anyone coming. If they used phone/earbud/bluetooth - digital tracks. If good old walkie-walkie - do those still make those horrific telltale squawks, because that wouldn't be stealthy at all. :thinking: I don't know what to think.

Clicking on image takes to larger size and when I squint my eyes I get a better view of the eyes - kinda spooky!
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I was not "thinking" ear, but ear is what I see. The outline, in triplicate due to distortion. I need the new iPad so I can draw arrows. I know the shape is clear and emerges from what should be a straight line more or less, from top of head to chin. What do you see? A large boil? A tumor?

I am fascinated by this photo since it is so much better, BUT NOW I WONDER IF IT WAS ORIGINAL, since Sparky said it was not allowed. Maybe that is why it is more clear than the other one?
 

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Don't lose faith, Glammie. I believe you are a local to the area and while it feels like it's taking forever- My gut tells me it may come sooner than you think. MOO

Thank you. I am sure praying so.
 

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ROTARY_DIAL bbm. First of all thank you for your posting contributions. I have NEVER understood the allure of MMA fighting, pummeling another person into a bloody and violent submission. Having said that, I see a person attracted to that sport, even after military service a very scary individual. I guess that's why they call it "mixed martial arts" Ie, anything, any weapon at hand to subdue your victim into submission. Sometimes it appears as if the fighter has gone into a frenzied state during their attack. They keep punching and hitting, even though their opponent is gravely injured, battered and bleeding. People (referees and assts) have to jump in and intervene. STOP THE CARNAGE, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Since MB's funeral was a closed casket....I can't help but wonder....There was no referee or assts to stop the frenzied attack upon poor Missy. So now I have to consider many issues #1) Propensity towards violence #2) A rejected business associate/intimate relationship.#3) Search warrant for phone #4) Linkedin connection/communication preference
So many great sleuths have given great theories.....and I've considered them all & contributed to some. But tonight, I don't think I'll go with, "PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN"...Cuz that is exactly where I'm going to look. Thanks for your time....Sleuth on!

Actually MMA is less brutal than boxing. A boxer's heavily taped hand, inserted into heavier padded boxing gloves allows them to punch an opponent as hard as they can without feeling the contact or breaking the hand. In boxing, the taped hands are so heavily taped it feels concrete like. In MMA the hands are taped less and the gloves are less padded, which means the hand is much easier broken if a fighter punches as hard as they can. The "frenzied state" you speak of is usually less violent than you think. When a fighter wildly throws haymakers to finish off an opponent, if you watch closely rarely do those haymakers land squarely on the opponent to do any further damage. Just saying...and yes I'm an MMA fan.
 

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I was not "thinking" ear, but ear is what I see. The outline, in triplicate due to distortion. I need the new iPad so I can draw arrows. I know the shape is clear and emerges from what should be a straight line more or less, from top of head to chin. What do you see? A large boil? A tumor?

I am fascinated by this photo since it is so much better, BUT NOW I WONDER IF IT WAS ORIGINAL, since Sparky said it was not allowed. Maybe that is why it is more clear than the other one?

None of these pics are useful at all. They're altered screen shots of low quality footage. It's going to be distorted and pixelated, and might give a general idea of a human but that's it. We can safely say the perpetrator had eyes. That's as good as it gets.
 

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Respectfully, I think that's overthinking it to a great degree.

Occam's Razor - the simple answer is usually the best one.

I think it's most likely one person involved.

Have to very respectfully disagree. Occam's Razor wouldn't require the police, FBI, Rangers, ATF, and NYPD. The level of planning alone (and the fact that there are 3 or 4 very plausible theories floating around) negates simplicity. MOO.

Sorry for the wonky quotes, I'm using Android and quoting doesn't seem to work well for me.
 

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Speaking of the church's remote location :drumroll: for the first time, I just looked at Googlemaps aerial view and see treelines closeby. It could be possible that a 4wheel drive car could have parked back there and the killer took a route through the fields (?) to leave rather than going through the parking lot where they might be seen. OTOH, that would also mean they would be muddy going into the church, and then back through nature again would leave lots of mud in the car/truck, too.

I saw what I think is a large house across the road and a sport hunting business down the road a bit. I was trying to see where they might have parked/walked without being obvious.

That also gives me more in the "random killer" column to think that. What if someone had been watching and aware of the women meeting at the church and thought "targets" for future reference. Lying in wait for whomever showed up first before a certain time so they could get away while still dark and before other people showed up. That person could have been curious enough to find out what group was exercising and did their own sleuthing to pick a target. They could have been the creepy message, too. Someone waaaaaaaaay upthread offered the idea of MB having a stalker. Yep, that could fit. I'm sorry I don't remember who posted it, I'd give them credit because it's a possibility.

Please nobody slam me for a generalization, but seeing the sport hunting business made me think hunting humans* :(

*too many scary movies*

I keep getting a role playing vibe, why the Police Costume, and the extent and expense to acquire it. Not necessary to hide ones identity, takes nothing more than a mask and loose fitting clothing, such as that. The perp also appears to be pretty young to me, maybe as between 18 and 30. Then there's the casual nonchalant strolling, opening doors, tapping wall... Disturbing. Jmo
 

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Who is controlling the narrative?

The main thing I learned about living with a controlling, narcissistic, psychopath is that they are very savvy and highly manipulative yet fail to possess strong emotional feelings for and bonds with other living beings. Without feelings of remorse or regret, psychopathic killers believe that their victim deserved to die. Even if the psychopath is not highly intelligent, and most possess an above average IQ, they usually do not possess a moral compass. They lack the emotion of fear. Low functioning psychopaths wind up in prison while high functioning psychopaths are business owners or CEO of a company. Most psychopaths are very jealous for they believe in possessing and ownership of others; thereby, diminishing the importance of another one's life.


This is my own opinion based upon personal life experiences and years of counseling; hence, the lack of a link.

Im not sure that what we have seen and heard from BB (or anybody else for that matter) is enough for anyone to reach the conclusion or suggest he is controlling, narcissistic or a psychopath. My opinion is based on physical observations and not an in depth psycho analysis.
 

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I keep getting a role playing vibe, why the Police Costume, and the extent and expense to acquire it. Not necessary to hide ones identity, takes nothing more than a mask and loose fitting clothing, such as that. The perp also appears to be pretty young to me, maybe as between 18 and 30. Then there's the casual nonchalant strolling, opening doors, tapping wall... Disturbing. Jmo
I also thought of a role playing "game" right away. I read an article in the NY Times which said that violent crimes involving police impersonators are common in Miami. There is even a Police Impersonator Investigative unit, the problem there is so bad...jmo I also agree that this perp was/is young, 17-19ish. jmo
 

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Would such a person you indicated be more likely to shoot the AA man ?

Possibly. But I was leaning more toward killing MB out of anger(or having her killed) with a potential bonus of ruining AJ/CT life and CG livelihood via false accusations.
 

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Did no one else think it curious that when AJT's garbage was "stolen", his friend thought "feds" were involved?
 

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Could the perp have gained closer access to Missy by wearing the gear? Perhaps he could have said, "Hey I have been waiting for you to get here because something has happened to your husband." This would allow the perp to approach Missy without her fleeing. I am thinking if I enter a church at 4am and see that person there, I would run.
So how did this SWAT person get close enough to Missy to strike, without arousing any fears? And also, the perp moves so awkwardly. If Missy ran, she would get away. So I am thinking maybe the SWAT gear was used for multiple purposes.

ETA: Maybe the perp said, "There has been a break-in here....come with me."
 

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I also thought of a role playing "game" right away. I read an article in the NY Times which said that violent crimes involving police impersonators are common in Miami. There is even a Police Impersonator Investigative unit, the problem there is so bad...jmo I also agree that this perp was/is young, 17-19ish. jmo

Gang related and/or drug related possible? Some gangs you hafta kill to get in. Think New Jack City.
 

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LeeBee,

You think it is weird that none of us have gone to a church we're not familiar with (that just had a brutal murder) and walked around taking photos of the interior? New to this forum, but is that something that is typically done?

Actually, I feel quite sorry for members of the church. Their place of worship has been turned into a 3 ring circus. IMO, that is NOT good.
 
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