TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #16

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  1. DrWatson221B

    DrWatson221B New Member

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    I also find changes in behavior to be very interesting, but may I respectfully add a different view? Wouldn't it almost be normal for the killer to 'flip the switch' and return to their normal routine? Like put that awful event into a box in your mind and compartmentalize it - dissociate that whole memory from the rest of your life? Then they wouldn't seem too different to an outsider. Now, at some point in the near or far future, that compartment may well burst open with a lot of feelings that need to be dealt with, but I think returning to the everyday routine may help to block out the horror of what the killer has done.

    For this same reason, I think saying that a mother couldn't commit a crime like this is hogwash. The most dangerous member of any species is a mother who feels she needs to defend her young. I'm no criminal or even a particularly violent person, but I know I could kill if my loved ones were in mortal danger. I wouldn't enjoy it and I have no idea how I would deal with the aftermath, but there is not a doubt in my mind I could. Since I do feel this is a female perp, maybe she felt this same way - but she somehow convinced or rationalized to herself that Missy represented some kind of 'mortal' danger to her or her family unit. I am ABSOLUTELY not saying this was a reasonable rationalization for the perp to reach, but clearly we are not talking about a reasonable person. But I doubt we are talking about a psychopath - as they are unable to care about others. I think we are dealing with someone who cared all too much about someone(s) else.
     


  2. robthomaseyes

    robthomaseyes New Member

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    OMG!!! I hadn't even thought of that. Brilliant deduction and, IMO, very, very possible.
     
  3. MsArk

    MsArk Well-Known Member

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    OT-- You may have missed your calling... Money Management Consultant.
     
  4. robthomaseyes

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    Hmmm. The post I saw had nothing but a picture. No comment, nothing. It was eerie, to me.
     
  5. robthomaseyes

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    I brought up the possibility that he got MB pregnant, but someone said it wasn't possible b/c she had a hysterectomy. So who knows.
     
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    He is 165 according to this link:

    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/fighter/Casey-Williams:2F3A41ED40EAD1E9

    Now, I can't find anything about him fighting over the last few years, making me wonder what he's looking like now, and why he stopped (if he did stop). Too many injuries? Body worn out? Very few, if any, can stand that much physical abuse for very long.
     
  7. Scout

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    Depends on how careful he/she was with the tools left at the crime scene prior to using them that night/morning.
     
  8. YouWho

    YouWho Active Member

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    Same here, point taken. However (btw I did watch the video) the expert was referring to BB's statements which he made to a reporter on the day that the cause of death was announced. None of us know what the initial conversation was between BB and the police the morning of MB's death. That's the point where we'd need to ask what the husband's reaction was, not weeks later when the details are made to the general public.

    But I really do have a problem with the way BB's mother believed MB was instead killed in a car crash. I know a lot of us have assumed that the mother misconstrued the conversation and she assumed it was a terrible car crash, but I don't believe that. I think BB told his mother it was a car crash, even though that's not what the P.D. told him. It is curious why BB went into that realm of denial.
     
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    I think you must be looking at old information. He is 33 years old according to this site:

    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/fighter/Casey-Williams:2F3A41ED40EAD1E9

    33 also matches up with his high school graduation date of 2001. 33 - 15 years ago = 18 (standard age at graduation).

    And according to that link, he hasn't fought in several years.
     
  10. liz b.

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    MB might have wondered where his police cruiser/motorcycle was ? There is something terrifying about the perp's appearance. jmo

    Starting to think this was some young guy who became obsessed with MB, and her physique. He may well have stalked her long enough to know her exact routine, and I would bet that he is the one who sent her at least one "creepy message " on LI. Possible for the tech people at LI to get his ISP address ?
     
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    Idk-if someone told me my spouse had been impaled and/or pulverized, or something similar (that maybe isn't public knowledge yet) etc., idk that I would want the details to imagine it, esp. right off-what if the injury that was actually the killing one was quite horrific?
     
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    Is there steroid use in MMA...head injury...or unrequited love affecting reasoning?
     
  13. Mountain Misst

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    I can confirm that age. Have DOB. He's 33
     
  14. FelicityLemon

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    I don't think it's a psychopath, either. And I agree with your comments - all of these make sense to me :) especially your point about compartmentalizing! There may be a sense of relief for the killer having gotten rid of the focus of their problems.

    That's going to be extra disturbing if it turns out the nobody saw any difference in behavior afterwards.

    ====================== this is odd, I'm sorry - the comments below were actually meant to be to a different post. Don't know what I did here, lol.

    I also think it would be enough (in the beginning, but I don't put a time limit on it.) to know your spouse was murdered. For many people, the details aren't important at that point - I wouldn't need or want to know how many shots (if gun) close up for far away, how many stabs, where she was stabbed, details like that would fuel my imagination and that would be even worse. I'd absolutely want to know, but only I could make that determination of when I'd be ready.

    BB doesn't look really physically healthy to me (aside from the obvious stress of his wife being murdered), and I don't blame him for not wanting the details until he's ready. He looks to be holding himself in a way that suggests physical discomfort or pain to me.

    I could be totally wrong, it wouldn't be the first time :peace:
     
  15. robthomaseyes

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    Yes, and when he bludgeons people with his fists, those fists show evidence - fighters get bruised hands, even broken fingers, scrapes, etc. very frequently. He's not likely to risk the police seeing his hands messed up like that when he hadn't had an MMA fight in several years. It would be suspicious to everybody around him. Using a tool is still personal enough (more personal than a gun) without marking his hands up as Exhibits A and B.

    As for his being a patriot or military, sorry, but military people are human too, and have been known to kill. Being a soldier does NOT exonerate anyone in my book.
     
  16. Cannonball3804

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    Yes, I've proposed this idea before. I think it's possible that maybe the perp intended to leave a scary message at the scene. But she got there before the preparations were finished. Perp then lures her to close proximity by telling her there's been a break-in. Then hits her by surprise when she's close.
     
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    I remember in the OJ case, the LAPD Homicide detectives called him in Chicago to tell him that Nicole had been killed...he never asked how, he just said he would be on the first flight back to LA. They knew, at that point, that OJ killed her. I am not saying that this happened in this case, just that it gave me pause when I saw it. JMO.
     
  18. Elle Vader

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    They also didn't have an open casket of any type. He may have been given a clue of how injured she was during the time when the body was prepared for burial. To be honest, if someone just said that my husband had been brutally murdered with injuries to his head and chest so severe that an open casket was not an option, I'm not sure I would want to know more. I remember when Jodi Arias wanted to see pictures of Travis after he died and I was disgusted by that request. This may be one of those instances where BB is damned if he wanted more info, and damned if he didn't depending on your perspective. There are times when BB sets off my hinky meter, but this isn't one of those times.
     
  19. Plumeria5

    Plumeria5 Well-Known Member

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    Has it been stated at all how long AJT knew MB? Also, to me, the killer's eyebrows look fairly thin, thinner than a man's.
     
  20. FelicityLemon

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    I don't put any stock on the car accident as how she died. It can be really hard to have to tell someone their family member has died and many, many people will start off by saying "There's been an accident" rather than immediately going into "I'm sorry to have to tell you, but your wife has been found murdered". The murder part comes later, but people generally try to break it gently. Some people (especially professionals or experienced in this) will pick up on whether the receiving person is ready to hear more details and waits for them to ask. If they don't ask, they may or may not explain further, but no details. It's may have been easier and/or kinder to let people assume 'car accident' and go from there. I can also picture BB telling his mom it was an accident and she herself inferred 'car'.

    A few ways misinformation gets moved along. :( Personally, I think it would be kinder to tell anyone who will immediately be traveling to be with their loved one or family, to let them think it's an accident and not a deliberate murder. Thinking it was an accident would be stressful enough to be stuck with while coming home, but your wife being murdered - brutally murdered - would be extreme.
     
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