Discussion in 'Crimes in the News' started by Sparky, May 19, 2016.
Respectfully, I know who are family, but which one and link that says they are not a Friend?
I saw in video when Swatperp was coming out of a door there was a definite beam from a headlamp shine across the doorjam. It was at 1.50 in the updated Creekview video. It might be light sensitive.
This is a link for SWFA's youtube channel. Check out just what their cameras' can pick up. See the "counting money" one where the camera zooms in to watch a man in his truck counting money. And the one where they can zoom out and refocus across the highway to watch a coyote running in the field. They even catch a vehicle going the wrong way on the divided highway. It's amazing!
Do you have a link for her face and chest being destroyed? Because I havent seen anything to that effect.
I just wanted to share the photos I took at SWFA yesterday. I wish I had gotten more but I was feeling a little uneasy about being there to be honest. I knew that we were on multiple cameras the entire time we circled the building. I took these just to show y'all that the photo of the Altima was probably captured by the flag pole camera. The flag pole camera (see close up photo in post #628) faces the entrance and captures every vehicle that pulls in as well as capturing it as it pulls out. We do think that the photo MPD released was taken by this camera. It has a rain shield and hubs calls it a "license plate reader" (like those we have at our toll areas in DFW). FWIW, he calls it a license plate reader because he found one online that looks just like it. He does NOT know that for sure so this is in HOO. Hubs opinion only. What isn't an opinion and should be taken as fact....is that there are so many cameras everywhere that I couldn't even count them as we drove through. Someone asked last night and I wasn't able to answer---but NO, we could not tell at all if any of them were dummy cameras. We aren't sure.
We drove through the parking lot and made a circle by going all the way around the building. There are no other entrances or exits other than the one caught on the flag pole camera. The entrance/exit is the same. As we drove around the building, we noticed cameras on every light pole as well as on the building all the way around. We also noticed that the covered sidewalk area (the area where the doors go into the building) has the dome cameras capturing the sidewalk areas as well as cameras on both sides of the doors when you enter and exit. The building is very large so it didn't seem crazy that they had this many cameras...but it was much larger than I expected when I had seen it before. We would guesstimate that you would seen on no less than 5-6 cameras just driving in and out and it's hard to say how many just driving around---probably quite a few and possibly more than 5 or 6.
**Also, if anyone from SWFA happens to read this--thank you for letting us drive through your parking lot yesterday. The big black truck with a college football emblem was us and we were only there for curiosity sake and not to case the joint. Promise.
I have been wondering just how much it was raining the moment the killer went into the church, because her/his clothing looks dry, and I never saw any wet foot prints in the picture.
Maybe he/she had his/her killing costume in a bag and did dress in the church?
And this is a close-up of the flag pole camera:
I agree 100% with Teatime's post.
In my city, a BOLO would be issued and perp caught. Solved.
The strategy behind how LE is handling this case fascinates me and is impressive, IMO, as it resonates that there is much more to this crime that MAY meet the eye...
Instead of just issuing a BOLO or being straight forward with this murder case, they choose to handle it this way (bits, pieces, more external LE, etc).
Does anyone else have a theory of why they would go about a case in this manner, as opposed to other ways?
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Or maybe they just stopped to make a phone call. Or maybe they stopped to look at a map. The possibilities are endless.
Incredible. I can't find one where it is raining but that would be telling.
I let my dog out at 4:45, it had stopped raining. I looked at the time to see if I had to stay up or go. Back to bed.
Doesn't say destroyed or specifically face.
Okay, the guy counting money in his truck, I can almost read the text on his phone. MPD must have a plate number on the Altima.
Holy smokes! And all this time I was looking for internal pics of church on YouTube!
Notice how most of these were just released in May 2016?
Is it normal for the police to take a weekend off (only the 2nd weekend since the murder)? I still can't really understand them doing this so early, which leads me to believe they do know more...at least I hope they do.
I think this case has melted my brain at this point...some of the theories I'm reading are really out there.
Bookmarking my spot. Taking the day off, be back tomorrow! :blowkiss:
Way upstream it was mentioned that someone in the family mentioned a negative interaction between the two, enough to report to LE in 1st few days post crime...possibly related to others feelings that mb needed to be careful
The highway in that section is 4 lanes (2 each direction) with a grassy median. This gun store is past the church, which is on the other side of the highway. The car had to be going south (not sure if it's 'exactly' "south", but just for reference) and it had to have exited the gun store driveway continuing in that direction. If it took a u-turn down the highway a bit, it seems as if the gun store's cameras would have caught it shortly afterwards going 'north'.