TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #20

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  1. observation

    observation Active Member

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    Well, IMHO every case is different and driven by evidence. Why issue a BOLO (be on the look out) if you cannot be VERY specific. For example, BOLO's are issued in an amber alert, when vehicle specifics are known. Here we have a vehicle that may or may not have anything to do with MB or Creekside Church. LE is being cautious and not making any (even if logical) ASSumptions.
     


  2. Littletipsy

    Littletipsy New Member

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    Good afternoon everyone! Happy Saturday!

    Here is another cooked up curve ball regarding this allusive Altima. Perhaps this vehicle is not local, the decal is a Baltimore Ravens logo and perhaps the driver is...lost. He/she pulls into the back of SWFA and quickly realizes they are at the incorrect location. He/she rechecks their map or gps inputs and quickly gets back on their way.

    I also have have a question. I think I read earlier that SWFA new of this vehicle video almost on day one. Did they advise LE then? If so, why is LE just now releasing it. Things that make me say hmmm...
     
  3. kimmera

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    No, perhaps I extrapolated a little too much from 'multiple puncture wounds' of the head and chest, and the video of what appears to be a hammer in the perps hand. Many on here have thought that that description could also refer to gunshot wounds, so who knows? But also, the fact that they funeral was closed casket led me to believe that her face was not in good shape. Not to mention, I really don't think I need to provide a LINK to express my opinion. But of course THAT is just my opinion as well...
     
  4. rodee34

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    There in the top left is Creekside church! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x8otfKXGMgQ
     
  5. observation

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    Regarding the question- maybe priorities. Likely more important to get cell phone forensics, data that can possibly be deleted, footage details about SP and then branch out to the outside. Working inward and then outward.... Maybe.
     
  6. TeaTime

    TeaTime Well-Known Member

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    BatBrat - love your schematics! Perhaps you could do a horizon point, using the door opening, minus the frame (which I think is a 2 inch metal frame BTW) and then place the 5'6", etc height in perspective?
     
  7. gliving

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    texasgirl2, look what their cameras' can capture! They knew you were there when you drove in. They could see what kind of camera you were using. Thank you for your photos.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqkY7BmnIEkrSAlxXTiaLig/videos
     
  8. KaaBoom

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    How do you know he wasn&#8217;t grabbing and piling things to take to a vehicle? He would have had at least 20 minutes to do that (from 4:00AM to 4:20AM). Why should he in a hurry, if he didn&#8217;t know she was coming? He probably thought he had hours, before anyone would arrive, or like you said, maybe he was looking for something specific, and didn&#8217;t find it.
     
  9. Batbrat

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    I'm with you on that. But one thing WS has helped me with is opening my mind and training my brain. Even though I'm tempted to roll my eyes whenever reading posts that read like a bad TV show plot, I think every post should be considered, even if not equally. It helps me learn how to sift through all sorts of scenarios, and draw my own conclusions about the stuff that makes more sense or less sense.
     
  10. arkansasmimi

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    Yes they both have one drive... go to goole link in this post and zoom in on church for that view Drive of SWFA ETA..... The Nissian Altima had to have passed the Creekside Church of Christ, no matter where it came from going down Hsy 287... JMHO looking at the Google map.
    SWFA Outdoor Store Google 1.jpg

    SWFA Outdoor Store Google 3.jpg

    Interestingly, the only cut across is at Creekside Church and past the SWFA Outdoor Store... (divided highway going either direction) Cross circled in blue https://www.google.com/maps/dir/''/...69ea29f7add587!2m2!1d-96.9240772!2d32.4466847 SWFA Outdoor Store Google 4.JPG
     
  11. Batbrat

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    I'll try to put something like that together. Perspective and lens distortion are a definite issue with this footage, as the cameras point downward (the action is below the horizon line), and wide-angle lenses are used.

    Thanks for the suggesion!
     
  12. PibblePal

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    Good observation. [emoji5]
    I guess I'm wondering why they are handling it the way they are. Obviously that's the million dollar question.
    I live in a high crime large city. While I follow many crimes in other US cities where LE handles it in this manner, the last thing my city does is press conferences, news media with SW, etc, ... And midlothian is a small town!
    My brain is fried and I'm thinking out loud. And I'm not patient. [emoji12]
     
  13. Traymar

    Traymar Well-Known Member

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    Thanks so much for the clarification.

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  14. observation

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    I'm not very patient with these kinds of matters either. We can speculate and often be correct but LE has to follow the letter of the law with proof and proper policy and procedures followed or can lose the SP on some technicality. I hear you though, pibblepal!!


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  15. kimmera

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    You're right, it didn't specifically say 'face', but the use of the word 'chest' indicates that it was a frontal attack, and the front of the head is the FACE. Just to clarify, my posts are MOO, and that is what I gleaned from the discussions here and from what LE has said. I also remember a lot of discussion here, many threads ago, that the perp may have been sitting on MB during the attack, and if that is the case, the wounds would have been to the face and not the back of the head, IMO, unless the perp was a contortionist or had arms that are 8 feet long.
     
  16. PibblePal

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    Very true! I've performed many eye rolls on theories on this particular case. But in the end, maybe one piece of what I feel is a crazy theory may fit in an overall scheme of things.
    Maybe multiple puncture wounds ends up being a few gunshots, and not an actual hate/person crime like I assume.
    Maybe they just wanted her dead.
    Heartbreaking all around!
    I want Hotch to approach the mic and say, We are looking for a white female outcast, with family problems, lives in the area and has pink hair.
     
  17. Traymar

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    Oooh, that is interesting. Thank you. Now I see how wide the gun store driveway is. It would be easy to just pull over and then keep going. I wondered about the cross-overs too. Since it is so far down the road, it seems odd police would ask about the car if there weren't at least a decent chance it's related. My opinion only, of course.

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  18. arkansasmimi

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    I love your analysis and I am positive your way smarter than me on those figures. So bear with me. JMHO, since the camera's are at a height above the suspect, and at various angles, I don't think you can go by your lines measuring as if flat footed. I am sure I am not explaining what I mean correctly. But the MPD probaby did as you did for their orig guess estimate ... But being there in person I sure it looks different standing on the floor next to the doors. Straight above looking down, you do not get the correct visual height. JMHO

    ** think like Google as you zoom in.. it looks completely different when you get it to a flat street view. What it the height placement of the signs on ea side of the wall in that Dutch door area. I am 5'5 and I would say from other signs like that in churches/building like I have seen they are not over my head. More of right at my eyes height. JMHO
     
  19. Littletipsy

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    After reviewing all of the camera abilities SWFA has, I am inclined to believe this vehicle video was released for the benefit of LE and nothing more. The plates could be stolen and they are having difficulty locating the owner (I believe also it isn't a local) so they have decided to apply gentle pressure on someone/anyone by using this release.
     
  20. Gwyndolyn

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    I agree you are probably right and that there was most likely face damage. My personal opinion is targeted and personal and damage to head and chest is a significant clue. IMO

    However, I was just answering the poster's question and providing the link and factual info so rumors don't spread. They seem to like links, facts, and opinions clearly marked in this forum. :)

    Off to take a little break and spend time with my dd. Have a great day sluethers and don't take things personally. It's all about Missy!
     
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