TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #21

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  1. arkansasmimi

    arkansasmimi Well-Known Member

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    We do not know where the video surveillance camera was that picked up MB driving into the church parking lot. We only know they have video of it. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eline-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12523292#post12523292
     


  2. cady

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    There IS a big difference between 5'2 and 5'7 though.....so maybe two after all. I was stuck on ONE. JMO
     
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    liltexans Retired WS Staff

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    Jax49 Florida Native

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    I swear I remember hearing the asst chief say in the press conference something to the effect of "it is obviously one person" meaning the one seen on video. IIRC, he then said something about not ruling out another perp (not seen on video). Of course now I can't find that comment. Does anyone remember it? MOO all over the place.
     
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  6. arkansasmimi

    arkansasmimi Well-Known Member

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    ;) ooohhh unless that's not what the Expert Reconstruction says. What matters is what it says in those reports. They could say 5'2 but MB was 5'3 that Suspect on that video didnt look that short to me, passing that fire extinguisher thing on the wall. I think they just gave a from here to there height ;)

    OH! Thank you so very much to all those who gave me MB height and link to it. I "thought" I had seen it but was not sure if it was a dream or not lol. :loveyou:
     
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    CCTV cameras are not even common in large US cities, let alone in a remote area like this. They have the video from the gun store security camera down the road. The church’s exterior security cameras were not activated the night of the murder. That’s likely all the security video that's on that stretch of highway. If they want more security video they would have to get it from locations, greater distance from the church. I would think that video from locations not near the church, would be pretty useless to the investigation.
     
  8. cady

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    So, 4:16 seen DRIVING in and 4:18 ( having walked to front door with key) ENTERING the church ? We do know that church entry was church camera at front door. DRIVING video is probably gun shop video, or else if church video, all campers were seen driving in, as well. JMO Also, if driving video is gun shop video all campers were seen too, but not necessarily perp, if they parked at north side of church.
     
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    The Altima photo seems to have been taken at a low height, almost at eye level. Not from a pole. IMO

    It is important where the Altima was parked for those few minutes. There is a brick wall with white trim around the back of SWFA which is where I thought the photo was taken. I'm not seeing wheels turned or the road stripe... Not yet anyhow. I keep staring at it trying to see the road.

    Here is a view from SWFA to the church in the distance (top left). IMO this could where the first PR mentioned having captured a photo of a car taken from a distance. This video starts off showing surroundings of their store. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x8otfKXGMgQ
     
  10. arkansasmimi

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    :detective: JMHO, I thinking it was more pointed to get the area of the Hwy 287 and not be a surveillance for the church. I thinking they got the vehicles entering and leaving. But just can identify those known (MB first campers, FD, LE anyone after. as long as that tape ran. Also could see if the Suspect came back by for a lookie lookie
     
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    The police said the exterior cameras were not functioning the night of the murder. They do have video from the exterior cameras from other times.

    My take, I think it’s nothing unusual. It was dark, it was raining, most cameras would not pick up anything in those conditions. It sounds to me like the cameras were probably functioning as they were designed to.
     
  12. arkansasmimi

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    I have no idea, but they screwed up the time saying 420 a.m. so I am not sure. * in one of the SW it says they got a 911 call at 506 a.m. also. So dunno... They should be able to verify that time frame by however they verified MB, unless they just were able to go back and look from 418 am on the video and see what happen just prior. I honestly think they have more evidence than the Suspect even has a clue. May be smart, just not as smart as thought He/She is. JMHO
     
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    First post here. I found and joined this website bc of this case. It's just driving me insane for some reason. In my opinion, I believe this was vandelism gone wrong. I do not believe she was targeted or that this was a burglary. I think the perp is a single, 20-40 yr old male with minor mental illness. Lacks social skills. Non-athletic. Possibly abused growing up. I think he may have wanted to be a cop all his life but didn't possess the tools/brains to be one. He was getting back at the Police and God in one swing. I think he was living out a fantasy. Possibly like a video game. I don't believe he knew anything about the class being held there. I don't think he's on social media and I think he lives nearby. Missy arriving at that church blew his fantasy and he completely panicked because he didn't expect something going on at a church on an early Monday morning. If this clown was a hitman he wouldn't be wearing all that stupid gear? If he was robbing the place then where is the bag for the cash/valuables? He wore the gear as an fu to the police bc he knew he would be on camera. And he vandalized the house of the Lord bc of who he is. Missy was in the wrong place at the wrong time. RIP. Just my opinion folks
     
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    I kind of doubt they entered the church much before 3:50AM. The cameras would have activated sooner. The suspect could have been out side the church at an earlier time though.
     
  15. Mollyandme

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    I completely have faith and think the reconstruction report is accurate and whatever is in those reports I believe when someone is arrested they will fall within the range given during the press conference, probably smack in the middle and for all we know they may have a more exact height but are giving a range that the more specific height falls between To the public. IMO, Not all people are good at guessing a height of someone, even someone they know, but given a range it would be easier to say whether someone fits in that range or not. 5'7 is the cutoff given and that clears some people on the list of being swatperp.
     
  16. CoverMeCagney

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    So that would be ever more suspicious if the car went and parked round the back? Even if you needed a wee would you drive round the back of a dark gun store? More likely you'd just stop at the front I'd think.

    Also per the poster who drove by and spotted 30+ cameras there is no way there isn't clearer footage of this vehicle.
     
  17. JnRyan

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    Per this article, LE does not have the attack or the suspect after the attack on video.

    http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20160504/warrant-issued-for-cell-phone

    So much for knowing how the suspect acted after the attack. If the suspects actions were known it might help determine if Missy was targeted.
     
  18. Mollyandme

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    Excellent point. I definitely think they were outside or near the church before entering and I wonder how long it took them to break into the door.
     
  19. arkansasmimi

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    Personally, I am not gonna try to read too much into it. I do not know how long (but I like you assume since the beginning) but this is an ongoing investigation. They didn't have to even release it. Thing I have found that when read too much into it .. you get tunnel vision from being in so many rabbit holes. Been there done that, have scratches from the briar patch ... It could be either we just don't know. I don't know who was driving that vehicle at 2 a.m. on April 18, 2016 so no way I am any help to them there. * or any way really. They have the best of the best helping. They don't need our sleuth ideas. They have the actual information needed to work through to send the case to DA. Its just puzzle work for me.
     
  20. HEY YOU!

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    Maybe perp went to church super early, broke windows on several doors. Opened doors and then left to see if cops came, then came back after coast was clear.
     
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